check out ALIX routers based on AMD APU. I have a few running arch doing double-duty as wired/wireless routers and fileservers:
LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware
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Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware
#82So is this still susceptible to throw hammer attacks?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Without disputing your points, I think it's probably a different focus that has driven the libremesh/librerouter approach. They're aiming at price point that works for developing countries, as well as libre hardware/software. That rules out eg. all -ac gear (I think?) and also probably means a developed-world commercial-grade PTMP solution is outside their budget as well. One correction though: although the article i…
It really doesn't rule out all AC equipment, quite the opposite, mikrotik PTP and ptmp radios and small routers are wildly popular in developing nations like the Philippines, Pakistan and Nepal. People on very limited budgets do some highly creative things.
As I understand it, it's not the price that rules at -ac, it's the software licensing concerns.
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#84From a WISP point to multipoint radio perspective, pure mesh is a really bad idea (due to half duplex medium and CSMA hell). I admire the internet research work that APNIC does but it looks to me like they're re-inventing the wheel here, versus mature and stable, relatively low cost commercial 5 GHz band point to multipoint radio platforms like the Ubiquiti Rocket5AC gen2 and its associated CPEs, Cambium PMP450/PMP45…
Since you have experience with WISP, I’m personally curious, for communities that are poor, but have low labor costs at certain points of the year, would a fiber backbone be viable? I mean if labor for wiring was free, and you only have to pay for equipment and to configure the equipment, would it be worth it? Although I think the communities would be grateful for just 200 kilobyte/s reliable internet on sunny days.
Define "poor"?
The lowest cost per km for FTTH (whether GPON based or active-ethernet) is 100% aerial on wood utility poles. Or in a developing nation environment, on the low rise height steel lattice tower utility poles that are used for the last mile electrical grid in cities like Lahore or Dhaka.
If I had a literally unlimited supply of labor to dig trenches and install cable, sure i could do underground FTTH at low cost. But manual labor to do cut and cover trenching, even with direct burial fiber, is going to be REALLY slow. What scale/size of project are you imagining?
Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since you have experience with WISP, I’m personally curious, for communities that are poor, but have low labor costs at certain points of the year, would a fiber backbone be viable? I mean if labor for wiring was free, and you only have to pay for equipment and to configure the equipment, would it be worth it? Although I think the communities would be grateful for just 200 kilobyte/s reliable internet on sunny days.
Define "poor"? The lowest cost per km for FTTH (whether GPON based or active-ethernet) is 100% aerial on wood utility poles. Or in a developing nation environment, on the low rise height steel lattice tower utility poles that are used for the last mile electrical grid in cities like Lahore or Dhaka. If I had a literally unlimited supply of labor to dig trenches and install cable, sure i could do underground FTTH at l…
Ideally all the unemployed males during the dry season would volunteer for the sake of their community. So maybe a few dozen men running fiber in a region where power is provided by local generators, solar panels, and fuel oil trucks.
So, the infrastructure isn’t even there, and the central government doesn’t care about any road side construction.
Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Define "poor"? The lowest cost per km for FTTH (whether GPON based or active-ethernet) is 100% aerial on wood utility poles. Or in a developing nation environment, on the low rise height steel lattice tower utility poles that are used for the last mile electrical grid in cities like Lahore or Dhaka. If I had a literally unlimited supply of labor to dig trenches and install cable, sure i could do underground FTTH at l…
Ideally all the unemployed males during the dry season would volunteer for the sake of their community. So maybe a few dozen men running fiber in a region where power is provided by local generators, solar panels, and fuel oil trucks. So, the infrastructure isn’t even there, and the central government doesn’t care about any road side construction.
You would need literally hundreds of people with shovels and pickaxes to equal the meters-day of a tracked trenching machine digging a one meter depth trench...
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ideally all the unemployed males during the dry season would volunteer for the sake of their community. So maybe a few dozen men running fiber in a region where power is provided by local generators, solar panels, and fuel oil trucks. So, the infrastructure isn’t even there, and the central government doesn’t care about any road side construction.
You would need literally hundreds of people with shovels and pickaxes to equal the meters-day of a tracked trenching machine digging a one meter depth trench...
May not even need a meter. A foot deep could be sufficient.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
BIND? Who still uses that? Its dnsmasq and unbound all over.
Bind is still very heavily used. Dnsmasq is popular in many of the container deployment models. I love Unbound, and hope that it gains more popularity. ISC (Bind) refuses to implement the min-ttl feature of Unbound. Unbound has better query (request and response) logging than Bind.
BIND 9.14 will have min-cache-ttl and min-ncache-ttl options
Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bind is still very heavily used. Dnsmasq is popular in many of the container deployment models. I love Unbound, and hope that it gains more popularity. ISC (Bind) refuses to implement the min-ttl feature of Unbound. Unbound has better query (request and response) logging than Bind.
BIND 9.14 will have min-cache-ttl and min-ncache-ttl options https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613
Oh wow, I wonder who convinced them to consider it. Nice!
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#90Cool work being done here. I particularly like that it uses mini-PCIe cards as the 5Ghz antennas! [0] [0] https://librerouter.org/document/schematic-v1/
I think that's more or less a Qualcomm reference design, and an old one at that. It's a little surprising that they went with a 2013 MIPS based SoC instead of ARM. The PCIe wireless cards are also a bit disappointing - QCA9582, which only does 802.11n. In theory, if the PCIe cards are really socketed, you could swap in a faster wireless card, but I suspect that the SoC wouldn't keep up.
I was fine with MIPS (which Ubiquity uses as well) until I found out that Linux/MIPS doesn't support ASLR/DEP. [1]
[1] https://cyber-itl.org/assets/papers/2018/Linux_MIPS_missing_...