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Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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Brave is a web browser that takes your money and claims to pay out to your favorite websites and content creators, but in most cases actually pays into a "user growth pool" that funds pyramid-shaped marketing (paying users to use the browser) and referral programs for partner content creators. How is that not fraud?

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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Brave is a web browser that takes your money and claims to pay out to your favorite websites and content creators, but in most cases actually pays into a "user growth pool" that funds pyramid-shaped marketing (paying users to use the browser) and referral programs for partner content creators. How is that not fraud?

> How is that not fraud?

The answer appears to be "technically", and "sue if you think you're big enough".

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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Brendan Eich answers on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1076187316748615680 basically he plans to keep it working the way it works now, "opt out" and all - he's confident this is a completely legal way to work

Just realized I didn't know this: how are you supposed to comply with GDPR if your clients are partially anonymous?

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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I've tried over and over for decades to like Firefox, but I just don't. I can't say it's a rational decision entirely. But beyond that, I just think that Mozilla's motives can't really be trusted at face value with the amount of revenue they have these days, and their whole profile sync service. It just comes down to incentives, and any company which collects any kind of data has the incentive to profit at our expens…

Is Mozilla run that lean even with >$500M in revenue?

If we didn't do business with any company that was run inefficiently we would not do business with a lot of places. I'm not sure how the efficiency of the business is entirely coupled to whether or not the product is usable and meets user needs in ways that other competing products cannot.

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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I'd been really loving Brave and using it as my daily driver for a few months now, until that I noticed that little "Brave Ads" icon at the end of the address bar. That's when I realized their entire business model is just in the usurpation of existing Google ad revenue, dressed up with "privacy concerns" for the good PR. This sent me on a journey to find a really solid, free, Chromium based browser that is totally d…

take a look at ungoogle chrome if you are on mac or linux. https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

Not sure why you don't like Brave? You can turn off all of the crypto currency and advertising stuff. I think its a good idea personally. What is the problem in usurping googles ad business, exactly?

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question. Why not Firefox? What are your concerns with it?

Firefox runs worse than chrome still, and it doesn't work well at all on my 2 core 2015 macbook pro. It works fine on my 6 core & 4 core machines although. I would also like something like the easy user switching that chrome has, since once user would have one set of session tab logins (twitter, fb, google, etc), and another user would have another. firefox -no-remote isn't that smooth of an experience compared to ch…

The Containers add-on[0] for Firefox that Mozilla makes has satisfied my need for partitioning. It's on a per-tab basis and also lets you define certain domains to automatically open in a specific container (e.g. Jira always opens in my Work container).

I can't really speak to Firefox's performance issues though. I feel like they're just as good on rendering and JS speed, but the overall UI doesn't have the same "fast" feel that Chrome does. Chrome has also seemingly gotten slower for me too.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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People could do something similar for open source projects: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18736006

tip4commit tried it in 2014, and it didn't go down so well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8542969

Re: Brave taking cryptocurrency donations “for me” without my consent

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People complain about paywalls, but this is literally the first Twitter link I've looked at in days and I get a rate limiting error. I don't mind paywalls, but wish micropayments we're easier. Whatever anti-user stuff Twitter has been up to (this isn't a new problem) is just atrocious.

That rate limit isn't about pay walls. It's just twitter's desire to force mobile users to use their app. Every single time a mobile user goes to a non-mobile Twitter url, they will hit that "error". Given that it's 100% reproducible, trivial to fix, and trivial to work around (hit reload. No wait needed), it's clear that they just don't want people to use their web browser on mobile devices.

Reload never seems to work for me. I give up after 1 or 2 reload tries, though.

> it's clear that they just don't want people to use their web browser on mobile devices.

Which is clearly user hostile.

Reddit does a similar thing whwre they artificially delay showing thebpage and then block a quarter of it with a banner asking you to use the mobile app.

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