I wonder what the implications will be for Western companies outsourcing there, anyone care to chime in?
Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers
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#32The article was vague. How does this law compare to other countries? Is it NSA or Hemisphere level data dragnets, is it Australian style "Australian law > mathematical law", or is it something different?
Atleast in developed countries individual rights are well enforced, so NSA atleast requires permission from secret court & Australian anti-encryption law at least was passed in their parliament (or equivalent).
In India govt just used a loophole to give several government aagencies to access any computer without limitations or hurdles.
I certainly believe this is intended for data analysis for elections & for abuse of people critical oof the government; especially journalists.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
...and 7 years of prison if the service provider does not hand the authorities the encryption keys... MITM for iMessage, Whatsapp etc seems to be guaranteed here.
> Whatsapp etc seems to be guaranteed here It is end to end encrypted
Which means that authorities can force the providers to inject public keys into the directory services, thus allowing the authorities access to the cleartext. End-to-end is a buzz word. What is important is key distribution, which is set to be subverted by governments everywhere...
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#34TL;DR This is a a decade old directive . This was a 2009 directive, if at all anything that has changed now it is instead of open ended notification in 2009 which said any company can access the data, this directive limits the number of companies to specific 10 agencies that can access that too after getting necassary permission. Details in https://www.opindia.com/2018/12/fact-check-congress-lies-mha...
To western readers clicking on the above 'opindia' article, it is a right-wing media outlet like 'Breitbart'.
It is well known to propagate fake news in support of the ruling right wing political party.
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#35It is easy to task authorities with intercept and decryption duties; actually doing it successfully is another matter entirely. Mathematics works both ways, friends.
They needn't decrypt, only negligible population use End to End encryption. They can do mass surveillance with the support of ISP; may be some of the ISP's objected to their surveillance requests & hence blanket permission to do so.
I think this is specifically aimed at elections, data from ISP's, set top boxes provide enough data to determine political affiliations such as whether you watch NDTV or Republic.
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#36I am surprised they are not simply mandating a keylogging software in all laptops/phones and get it over with instead of trying to decrypt.
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#37And here is the natural born right to privacy that Americans have, as well as the rest of the world in my own opinion:
Bill of Rights, amendment 4:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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#38And here is the natural born right to privacy that Americans have, as well as the rest of the world in my own opinion: Bill of Rights, amendment 4: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the…
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#39And here is the natural born right to privacy that Americans have, as well as the rest of the world in my own opinion: Bill of Rights, amendment 4: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the…
Devotion to the quasi-religious idea of “natural rights” is not nearly as surprising as the belief that what are very clearly political compromises of the late 18th Century somehow perfectly captured such rights.
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#40And here is the natural born right to privacy that Americans have, as well as the rest of the world in my own opinion: Bill of Rights, amendment 4: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the…
It's a nice right in theory, but in reality, stop-and-frisk, border control, parallel construction, 'I smelled weed in the car', 'I had a hunch', 'the drug dog gave me a signal', 'we got an anonymous tip (from an illegal search, via parallel construction)' all exist, and are regularly employed in the United States.
They also tend to be disproportionately targeted at particular, inconvenient, segments of the population.