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Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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They're worse than that. Houses are a mass medium of child abuse. It's a lot easier to rape children indoors than to find a a suitably secluded spot outside any house.

I don't think you have grasped what a mass medium is - you don't get millions of people joining each house. You get lots of houses with a few people in them.

Those are called towns. Like, you know, a collection of houses.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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I don't think you have grasped what a mass medium is - you don't get millions of people joining each house. You get lots of houses with a few people in them.

Those are called towns. Like, you know, a collection of houses.

The metaphor is pretty tortured at this point, but almost all towns have police forces.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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It seems impossible to determine the amount of secular empirical harm being done by child porn consumption (for example, if all of the child porn being produced in a group was fabricated, who is harmed and how?), but we can at least imagine how much harm is done by a breach of privacy by corrupt governments.

Also, this (Frankly dumb) article perhaps unknowingly just marketed the existence of these groups to new fans (I note that the link to the cited Android app for whatsapp-group-discovery now 404's) and THAT will surely be harmful.

I'd comment on the article itself but Techcrunch's website is a dogpile of shit with a terrible onboarding workflow and site design.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Newsflash: e2e encryption is used to send content that stands to gain most from using it.

With WhatsApp, end-to-end encryption is used by everybody , even though most people probably do not realize it. EDIT: Okay, that came out more snarky than I wanted it to. On the one hand, you are right, of course: Provide a secure, encrypted, easy-to-use means of communication, and people with something to hide will use it. If I wanted to download or spread child pornography, I would not do it via an unencrypted chan…

In fact, I would say that everyone has something to hide and that is perfectly normal and acceptable.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Why aren't builders taking more initiative to employ moderators to monitor crimes inside the houses they build?

That's not a perfect analogy -- these aren't people meeting one-by-one in private spaces, WhatsApp is providing them a shared space where they can meet and share images. This seems more like blaming a hotel for letting one of their conference rooms be used for an illegal porn swap meet.

>providing them a shared space where they can meet and share images

Just like houses. Except you can share more than images on those.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Those are called towns. Like, you know, a collection of houses.

The metaphor is pretty tortured at this point, but almost all towns have police forces.

Which are not expected to go inside every house because there could be child abusing ongoing there.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Or rather, humanity has a lot of problems. Including rape, pedophilia, murders, etc. I don't think WhatsApp in particular has a problem. Are houses a problem because they hide crimes with their walls?

In other words, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"?

No, guns were definitely made to kill people.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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The metaphor is pretty tortured at this point, but almost all towns have police forces.

Which are not expected to go inside every house because there could be child abusing ongoing there.

Which, having reasonable suspicion, may enter any home with a warrant etc.
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