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Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

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Re: Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

#11

TL;DR This is a a decade old directive . This was a 2009 directive, if at all anything that has changed now it is instead of open ended notification in 2009 which said any company can access the data, this directive limits the number of companies to specific 10 agencies that can access that too after getting necassary permission. Details in https://www.opindia.com/2018/12/fact-check-congress-lies-mha...

It just said monitoring and collection - there is no mention of tampering private owned properties and complete invasion into privacy.

Re: Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

#12
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> It is easy to task authorities with intercept and decryption duties; actually doing it successfully is another matter entirely. Mathematics works both ways, friends. Actually if Apple, Goog, FB etc are forced to surrender the key--at the penalty of being excluded from 1.x billion people in India--math works only one way...

they can't surrender keys they don't have (e2e). the only issue is that they may be forced to do a key change. one way around this would be to show a prominent notice if your peer changed keys, which would make it immediately obvious what was going on.

> Actually if Apple, Goog, FB etc are forced to surrender the key--at the penalty of being excluded from 1.x billion people in India--math works only one way...

They did that with Blackberry few years ago

Re: Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

#15

It is easy to task authorities with intercept and decryption duties; actually doing it successfully is another matter entirely. Mathematics works both ways, friends.

Unfortunately force and power usually only work one way. If they can't succeed in decryption, they'll succeed in threatening and/or scaring the people into doing it for them.

Re: Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

#17

In India people call this "Mitron" MITRON 1. A large group of unsuspecting people, about to be hit by something they will take a long time to recover from. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MITRON

Not to ruin the joke, but I'll just clarify that "mitron" is actually Hindi for "friends" and is used by our Prime Minister a lot (especially in speeches).

Re: Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

#19
Things like this is why I think India has a very flawed political system, the executive is having too much power, and the Constitutional guarantees to citizens are flimsy, and courts including the Supreme Court are temperamental and inconsistent.

Civil law protections are insufficient as they are presently. Govt can put you in jail on flimsy grounds, but you can't sue for damages on wrongful imprisonment, etc. Most things are governed by criminal laws, where only remedy is punishment for the convicted, instead of having a strong tort law, where the aggrieved parties can extricate monetary damage claims.

Re: Indian government to intercept, monitor, and decrypt citizens’ computers

#20
Even if I take the headline with grain of salt and assuming it's meant to capture reader's interest, it is rather surprising the Nation involved is not your run-of-the-mill authoritarian/repressive nation but one that bills itself as the 'World's largest democracy'.
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