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WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #10

This problem is only going to grow in the future. You can't control or reliably censor information on a free and open internet. The only way to ensure that nothing "bad" happens on the internet is to completely lock it down and whitelist everything that is posted. This isn't going to happen. In a few years blockchain based messaging apps will be launching and they will not be controlled by Facebook or anyone else. Yo…

You can, actually, by not having a free and open internet. Which is what we will eventually have. And it won't be because of some super shady and evil council of old men in suits, but because the public will beg for it.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #14

> In July 2018, the NGOs became aware... The NGO reported their findings to Israeli police but declined to provide Facebook with their research. WhatsApp only received their report and the screenshot of active child pornography groups today from TechCrunch. Huh? Who are these NGOs looking out for? Why wouldn't you tell FB in the first instance?

Because once you become aware of a crime you let law enforcement handle it? Neither these NGOs nor Facebook are Batman.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The join group links are public. So not really encrypted, since the key is public.

So why does encryption have anything to do with this?

Because it prevents automated mass monitoring and filtering of content in general. Someone has to know there is this group, be allowed to join it, monitor the content, etc. It's much more costly.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Other than closing the Internet as someone suggests, wouldn't be possible to integrate the service that Microsoft offers to detect this material? Other apps like telegram, not e2e, could be integrated more easily, but personally I wouldn't mind such system being native on Android or IOS - allowing to make life much more difficult for pedos.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

#38
post #10

This problem is only going to grow in the future. You can't control or reliably censor information on a free and open internet. The only way to ensure that nothing "bad" happens on the internet is to completely lock it down and whitelist everything that is posted. This isn't going to happen. In a few years blockchain based messaging apps will be launching and they will not be controlled by Facebook or anyone else. Yo…

blockchain based messaging apps

Out of genuine curiosity, where do blockchains enter into the messaging space? Auditable chat histories and identities? As opposed to other cryptography/security techniques, blockchain doesn't seem like an especially good match for the problem space.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So why does encryption have anything to do with this?

Because it prevents automated mass monitoring and filtering of content in general. Someone has to know there is this group, be allowed to join it, monitor the content, etc. It's much more costly.

What if someone joins every group

What if that someone doesn’t show up in the list of group members because WhatsApp has this built in

What if you don’t control the source code so you can’t verify this

What if RMS was right

What then

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