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Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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> WhatsApp chat groups are being used to spread illegal child pornography, cloaked by the app’s end-to-end encryption. Without the necessary number of human moderators, the disturbing content is slipping by WhatsApp’s automated systems. Wait what? Moderators for end-to-end encrypted communication? Something doesn't add up!

I'm guessing since these are publicly accessible groups via apps as the article suggests, moderators could in theory search out and shut down such groups. Not sure how much data they are able to provide to the authorities though, I guess prosecuting the people is the difficult part.

Those would not be moderators. Those would be undercover investigators. DO NOT DO THIS. Any non-cop can get into real trouble. These sorts of investigations require people authorized to seek out, possess, and transport this material (all crimes in various jurisdictions). Even facebook will hesitate on sending employees out to hunt these groups.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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Or rather, humanity has a lot of problems. Including rape, pedophilia, murders, etc. I don't think WhatsApp in particular has a problem. Are houses a problem because they hide crimes with their walls?

Why aren't builders taking more initiative to employ moderators to monitor crimes inside the houses they build?

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #20

Or rather, humanity has a lot of problems. Including rape, pedophilia, murders, etc. I don't think WhatsApp in particular has a problem. Are houses a problem because they hide crimes with their walls?

This is a popular view, and it's one I may go to sometimes, but I wonder if it's only popular because it's what we want to believe. Really, it's reasonable to think that lowering the cost or risk of an activity will lead to more of it.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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It is almost like letting people act with impunity by putting the state at an informational disadvantage in a hyper-connected and hyper-mediated age is going to result in pretty unpleasant stuff becoming more common and more accessible.

Goodness, who knew?

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #20

Or rather, humanity has a lot of problems. Including rape, pedophilia, murders, etc. I don't think WhatsApp in particular has a problem. Are houses a problem because they hide crimes with their walls?

Not the same. Houses aren't a mass medium of communication.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #3

> WhatsApp chat groups are being used to spread illegal child pornography, cloaked by the app’s end-to-end encryption. Without the necessary number of human moderators, the disturbing content is slipping by WhatsApp’s automated systems. Wait what? Moderators for end-to-end encrypted communication? Something doesn't add up!

I'm guessing since these are publicly accessible groups via apps as the article suggests, moderators could in theory search out and shut down such groups. Not sure how much data they are able to provide to the authorities though, I guess prosecuting the people is the difficult part.

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Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #20

Or rather, humanity has a lot of problems. Including rape, pedophilia, murders, etc. I don't think WhatsApp in particular has a problem. Are houses a problem because they hide crimes with their walls?

Why aren't builders taking more initiative to employ moderators to monitor crimes inside the houses they build?

That's not a perfect analogy -- these aren't people meeting one-by-one in private spaces, WhatsApp is providing them a shared space where they can meet and share images.

This seems more like blaming a hotel for letting one of their conference rooms be used for an illegal porn swap meet.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #20

Or rather, humanity has a lot of problems. Including rape, pedophilia, murders, etc. I don't think WhatsApp in particular has a problem. Are houses a problem because they hide crimes with their walls?

In other words, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"?
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