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Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, here come the obligatory downvotes, lol.

Because it doesn't contribute to the discussion.

Sure it does, maybe not as directly as people would like but I don't see how it warrants downvotes. If you feel it doesn't contribute, don't upvote it.

I for one think there's some element of surprise that accompanies these articles that undermines the mechanisms of the technology being discussed and places blame on platforms that administer it.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, here come the obligatory downvotes, lol.

Because it doesn't contribute to the discussion.

Personally I think it does. The OP is highlighting an assumption that it appears to be the duty of the carrier to track and block content ("WhatsApp has ... problem"). Except that is exactly what carriers should not be doing, and what encryption protects against. Using carriers to track and block content is the definition of totalitarianism. I think child pornography is a hideous blight but stamping it out by shifting responsibility to the carrier is not the way forward.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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> In July 2018, the NGOs became aware... The NGO reported their findings to Israeli police but declined to provide Facebook with their research. WhatsApp only received their report and the screenshot of active child pornography groups today from TechCrunch.

Huh? Who are these NGOs looking out for? Why wouldn't you tell FB in the first instance?

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing since these are publicly accessible groups via apps as the article suggests, moderators could in theory search out and shut down such groups. Not sure how much data they are able to provide to the authorities though, I guess prosecuting the people is the difficult part.

Yeah. It's just bad writing in the opening paragraph. WhatsApp doesn't provide search but groups can be joined via links. Third-party apps and sites use the links to index groups. Some groups share illegal content. WhatsApp should hire people to crawl those apps/sites, find the illegal groups, join, verify and ban. Not entirely unreasonable. Won't fix anything* but if the company is big and well funded they should at…

> so you ban the users? $10 gets you a new pre-paid sim card

And then when they recycle the unused number, and you get it and discover you are "lifetime banned", and I'm quite sure there's no appeal process.

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

#17
post #7

Newsflash: e2e encryption is used to send content that stands to gain most from using it.

Careful there. You don't want to cause people to pull an Australia.

Australia has passed controversial laws designed to compel technology companies to grant police and security agencies access to encrypted messages. The government says the laws, a world first, are necessary to help combat terrorism and crime.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46463029

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing since these are publicly accessible groups via apps as the article suggests, moderators could in theory search out and shut down such groups. Not sure how much data they are able to provide to the authorities though, I guess prosecuting the people is the difficult part.

Yeah. It's just bad writing in the opening paragraph. WhatsApp doesn't provide search but groups can be joined via links. Third-party apps and sites use the links to index groups. Some groups share illegal content. WhatsApp should hire people to crawl those apps/sites, find the illegal groups, join, verify and ban. Not entirely unreasonable. Won't fix anything* but if the company is big and well funded they should at…

> WhatsApp should hire people to crawl those apps/sites, find the illegal groups, join, verify and ban.

This is a problem that needs a good solution, but you're literally suggesting that an arm of the one of the world's largest data collectors and propaganda engines, which offers free encrypted public communication to the masses, should fund and operate an internal spy agency whose job is to blend in and infiltrate groups and conversations in order to find illegal content. At what point is Facebook still not a mass-surveillance network?

Re: WhatsApp has an encrypted child porn problem

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The internet has an unencrypted child porn problem as well.

The medium used to communicate is irrelevant to the discussion here. If they can't control the unencrypted platforms, why are they pulling focus to encrypted platforms if not to influence public opinions regarding encrypted mediums?

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