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Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by noselasd »

NullPrefix wrote: post #147
badsectoracula wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not understand, Virtual Box is free software, the versions distributed through most common Linux distributions does not contain any non-free components and the binaries on the site are released under the GPLv2. The extensions you mention are a separate download that you explicitly have to download and it is mentioned around the download that they are under a different license. How exactly are you trapped by usin…

Without the extension VirtualBox VMs are pretty much shit.

How so ? (don't confuse the extension pack with the guest addons though)

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by krylon »

amyjess wrote: post #117
krylon wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany, it is illegal to record phone conversations without the consents of the other party. Also, I don't think Oracle is going to sue over something like this. They really seem not to care. But they could change their mind tomorrow.

> In Germany, it is illegal to record phone conversations without the consents of the other party. Hence, "If you live in a one-party state." > Also, I don't think Oracle is going to sue over something like this. Check the other comments in the thread. People are reporting that Oracle is taking IP addresses of people who access the extensions site and if the IP address belongs to a company, they contact the company a…

> Hence, "If you live in a one-party state."

I am sorry. In Germany, there is no such thing as a "one-party state". :-|

> People are reporting that Oracle is taking IP addresses of people who access the extensions site and if the IP address belongs to a company, they contact the company and threaten to sue.

Thank you for pointing this out. I stand corrected.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by cat199 »

> iSCSI: In cases where there is no ambiguity, the LUN of an iSCSI target is automatically determined, for targets with non-zero LUNs

Any SAN/Storage admins care to comment on if this is really great or really scary?

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by chomp »

plq wrote: post #171
chomp wrote: post #131

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Personal anecdote: They came after us, since the extension phones home and they could track it to our ASN. Asked us for an audit of all installs of VB. The idea was that they wanted to then charge us big money for a corporate license. Instead, IT banned it enterprise-wide. Which is sad, because we like it for Vagrant. We've since started moving all of our developer stuff to OpenShift, so we're not totally up a creek.

Why not use KVM via vagrant-libvirt? It's pretty easy to set up and works like a charm. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18727059

So one problem with that is not all of our team uses Linux, we're a Mac/Linux hybrid team. Our workflow was to edit the puppet manifests locally and then Vagrant up, and we wanted something that would work across different dev machines. However, the fussiness of environment setup started to go higher the further we got from VBox; our team didn't really want to invest time into a workflow that was supposed to be an intermediate step to our "end game" development pipeline, so we just left it. Thanks for the link though!

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by jstarfish »

NullPrefix wrote: post #147
badsectoracula wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not understand, Virtual Box is free software, the versions distributed through most common Linux distributions does not contain any non-free components and the binaries on the site are released under the GPLv2. The extensions you mention are a separate download that you explicitly have to download and it is mentioned around the download that they are under a different license. How exactly are you trapped by usin…

Without the extension VirtualBox VMs are pretty much shit.

Extensions add "support for USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 devices, VirtualBox RDP, disk encryption, NVMe and PXE boot for Intel cards."

I'd argue the added features themselves are mostly shit. If you need hypervisor RDP or FDE there are much better solutions than VirtualBox.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by dotancohen »

ikeboy wrote: post #83
0x0 wrote: post #77

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That link only shows: "Access Denied You don't have permission to access " http://m.cdw.com/product/oracle-vm-virtualbox-enterprise-lic... on this server."

Works for me. Are you accessing this from the US?

Just chiming in with the others. Trying from Israel, Access Denied.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by gruez »

jstarfish wrote: post #179
gruez wrote: post #137

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>Oracle is being extremely aggressive and mounting what is essentially a phishing campaign against organizations that it sees accessing the extension download page. They are e-mailing employees directly and asking them to contact Oracle. You have a very broad definition of "phishing".

Spamming employees with officious emails and hoping one of them is dumb enough to respond with pertinent information that subverts them or their organization is the textbook definition of phishing. What does it mean to you ?

from wikipedia:

>Phishing is the fraudulent attempt to obtain sensitive information such as usernames, passwords and credit card details by disguising as a trustworthy entity in an electronic communication

"using virtualbox" isn't sensitive information. I haven't read the emails, but I doubt Oracle is disguising themselves as the company's IT department or something.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by kop316 »

jweir wrote: post #176
robert_foss wrote: post #10

Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/

To be clear, VirtualBox and Guest Additions are open source. It is only the Extension Pack which is licensed. No? Until today I had never even heard of the Extension pack, and have never had any need to use it.

You are correct. It is of note that the extesions pack has a lot of useful add-ons, but you did have to explicitly install it.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by gruez »

phamilton wrote: post #168
gruez wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Oracle is being extremely aggressive and mounting what is essentially a phishing campaign against organizations that it sees accessing the extension download page. They are e-mailing employees directly and asking them to contact Oracle. You have a very broad definition of "phishing".

> They are e-mailing employees directly and asking them to contact Oracle That would certainly look a lot like phishing

So 90% of cold-call recruiting/sales is also "phishing"?

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by [deleted] »

jstarfish wrote: post #185
NullPrefix wrote: post #147

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Without the extension VirtualBox VMs are pretty much shit.

Extensions add "support for USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 devices, VirtualBox RDP, disk encryption, NVMe and PXE boot for Intel cards." I'd argue the added features themselves are mostly shit. If you need hypervisor RDP or FDE there are much better solutions than VirtualBox.

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