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Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by chomp »

setquk wrote: post #111
organsnyder wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even worse: Oracle is going around and threatening to sue enterprises that show traffic to the extensions download site from their IP blocks. Happened recently at a previous employer of mine.

Any public references for this anywhere?

Personal anecdote: They came after us, since the extension phones home and they could track it to our ASN. Asked us for an audit of all installs of VB. The idea was that they wanted to then charge us big money for a corporate license.

Instead, IT banned it enterprise-wide. Which is sad, because we like it for Vagrant. We've since started moving all of our developer stuff to OpenShift, so we're not totally up a creek.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by border43 »

jki275 wrote: post #87
cm2187 wrote: post #86

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But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?

I use hyper-v and rdp every day, very happy with both. I even run Linux VMs in hyper-v.

I've had nothing but issues trying to run Ubuntu in Hyper-V. Even the Windows Ubuntu LTS image that comes with the quick-create didn't work for very long.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I've never has success with non-windows OS's.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by pizza234 »

znpy wrote: post #64
bayindirh wrote: post #30

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We use virt-manager to virtualize servers on servers with joy, however I use VBox to virtualize Windows hosts with hardware acceleration if possible. How is the state of KVM's support about 3D acceleration, sound, drag'n drop and like?

If you have on the host system a graphics card that you can fully dedicate to the guest system, you can then do pci-passthrough and let the guest system have nearly-full access to that graphic card with nearly full performances. Also, kvm has some nice features that AFAIK virtual box does not have. For example you can have gnu/linux and windows guests use the balloon memory driver, that basically allocates and deallo…

> you can then do pci-passthrough and let the guest system have nearly-full access to that graphic card with nearly full performances.

It is possible, but when it works and works well, which is not always the case. In addition, one may have to lock the card for usage with the guest only, since drivers may not be compatible with intermittent (=on/off) vfio usage.

I've had mixed experiences, depending on the hardware. my current system is 100% stable, however, I don use the card on the host (it causes instability). My previous system worked badly, and it was essentially not usable.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by caycep »

robert_foss wrote: post #10

Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/

I think the advantage of VB is its installer and ease of creating and spinning up desktop VMs. The last time I tried using virt manager, I decided it wasn't for me, at its then-level of polish, but this was probably back in 2011 or 2012 or something. Boxes seems promising in this regard...hopefully it gets some momentum behind it.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by arminiusreturns »

chomp wrote: post #131
setquk wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any public references for this anywhere?

Personal anecdote: They came after us, since the extension phones home and they could track it to our ASN. Asked us for an audit of all installs of VB. The idea was that they wanted to then charge us big money for a corporate license. Instead, IT banned it enterprise-wide. Which is sad, because we like it for Vagrant. We've since started moving all of our developer stuff to OpenShift, so we're not totally up a creek.

I have a devops guy trying to push me to use Vagrant at the moment, but I am aware of these issues with virtualbox. I was thinking about using one of the lxc shims, but now you have me curious, how useful is openshift in that "I want to spin local vms up for testing" approach? I thought it was much more geared to server and not workstation, as opposed to vagrant.

Of course others are right, virt-manager is probably a better replacement I think.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by candiodari »

vbezhenar wrote: post #88
cm2187 wrote: post #86

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But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?

You need Windows Pro as a guest to RDP.

Not if you use the Virtualbox extension pack to VNC (that's the free/GPL extension pack, not the Oracle one). That will work with anything. Hell, it'll work with a DOS 1.0 guest.

(and yes, it's VNC, not RDP, I believe the oracle extension pack actually allows for Virtualbox to do RDP as well. But you can stay GPL-only and still support headless VNC. I believe phpVirtualbox uses it with beautiful results)

https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=85886

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by gruez »

alpinewinter wrote: post #129
setquk wrote: post #111

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Any public references for this anywhere?

I don't know of any public references, but I can confirm this is happening to government entities as well. Oracle is being extremely aggressive and mounting what is essentially a phishing campaign against organizations that it sees accessing the extension download page. They are e-mailing employees directly and asking them to contact Oracle.

>Oracle is being extremely aggressive and mounting what is essentially a phishing campaign against organizations that it sees accessing the extension download page. They are e-mailing employees directly and asking them to contact Oracle.

You have a very broad definition of "phishing".

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by cm2187 »

cpach wrote: post #118
cm2187 wrote: post #86

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But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?

I tried Hyper-V for a while but I found the network configuration really cumbersome. Therefore I went back to Virtualbox but I should probably request my employer to buy a license for Vmware.

Is it because you switched frequently from one adapter to another (like wifi to ethernet)? Otherwise I don't think I ever had any problem with the network configuration.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by gsich »

jf- wrote: post #62
zapzupnz wrote: post #42

Holy cow, what an ugly user interface. I mean, it wasn't exactly a Matisse before, but it's just hideous now on macOS. Who thought "easy to use" rhymed with "make the icons look like nearly identical and somewhat indistinguishable blue squares"? Who decided that an already rather unprofessional drawing of Tux needed to be transformed into Baby's First Vector Drawing™? And why, when previous versions already did a sem…

Exactly the kind of nitpicking negativity I expected to see when I opened the thread. It’s an app for running VMs, not a piece of consumer software, it’s not being marketed based on how it looks. Say what you will about oracle’s business practises, but it’s a crying shame that this is the top comment. Edit: was top comment. Crying shame averted.

>not a piece of consumer software

What is it then?

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