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Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/
Even worse: Oracle is going around and threatening to sue enterprises that show traffic to the extensions download site from their IP blocks. Happened recently at a previous employer of mine.
Is anyone using VirtualBox on the desktop? Specifically, to run Linux/macOS/Windows guests on a macOS host? Would you recommend it? Or is the best option VMware Fusion, Parallels, or something else?
I recently got a Mac and wanted to avoid the cost of Parallels, so I tried VirtualBox first. It was insanely slow. Like, I would be typing text into a VM and I would type a line, then wait and watch the characters appear. This happened on a 2018 Macbook Pro host with 32GB RAM. This happened on both Windows and Ubuntu guests. So, I tried Parallels and it was so fast I can't really tell the difference between the host…
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I vaguely recall that this was discussed here on HN a while ago and somebody who had actually tried to buy the necessary license reported that Oracle would not sell them the license; IIRC, the sales person told them to "just use it, we don't care", or something along those lines. Which is very problematic, of course, without something in writing, and given Oracle's reputation.
If you live in a one-party state, secretly record them and then if Oracle threatens to sue, show them the recording and remind them of promissory estoppel. (IANAL!)
Also, I don't think Oracle is going to sue over something like this. They really seem not to care. But they could change their mind tomorrow.
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How do you license them? I've never seen a "Buy now" link, only the text about "Free for personal use" every time.
I vaguely recall that this was discussed here on HN a while ago and somebody who had actually tried to buy the necessary license reported that Oracle would not sell them the license; IIRC, the sales person told them to "just use it, we don't care", or something along those lines. Which is very problematic, of course, without something in writing, and given Oracle's reputation.
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If you live in a one-party state, secretly record them and then if Oracle threatens to sue, show them the recording and remind them of promissory estoppel. (IANAL!)
In Germany, it is illegal to record phone conversations without the consents of the other party. Also, I don't think Oracle is going to sue over something like this. They really seem not to care. But they could change their mind tomorrow.
Hence, "If you live in a one-party state."
> Also, I don't think Oracle is going to sue over something like this.
Check the other comments in the thread. People are reporting that Oracle is taking IP addresses of people who access the extensions site and if the IP address belongs to a company, they contact the company and threaten to sue.
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Exactly, I'm upvoting this to prevent poor souls stuck on Windows from looking for these nice solutions...
But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?
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How do you license them? I've never seen a "Buy now" link, only the text about "Free for personal use" every time.
You go to the download page, see the link about the licence, click the FAQ link, and then click the store link, it's £36/user
https://shop.oracle.com/apex/f?p=dstore:product:257141221156...