This link might give you a perspective https://twitter.com/stewart/status/391346582764789760
Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada
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Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada
#52Few days ago i was in UAE and saw fishing boats carrying gadgets like iPad, iPhones and Macs into Iran.
Obviously, looking from outside you can't tell that this rotten boat is carrying expensive gadgets. I saw this because my friend owns a wharehouse and he had to put some of his stuff into same boat.
Funny thing is Tinder is available in Iran and i used it there when i was at home for vacation.
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#53If you work for an American company, get a bug report from a user you know to be in Iran against an open source project you work on during company time and fix it as a result, can the company be considered to be engaging in commerce with Iran?
Sourceforge actively DID block interaction with countries under sanction by the US. even though they're garbage malware distributers now it is a data point
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2467444/open-source-to...
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#54A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.
> They were using Slack from Syria though. This doesn't excuse anything. People in Syria are people too. This is similar to how people were calling for websites to block access to Europe over the copyright thing. The internet is a place where you don't even need to have a nationality. It is a place where we can all exist as pure thoughts. Why are we letting politics fuck it up?
I think people are trying to stop politics from fucking it up. Politicians have started using the internet for political purposes.
Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada
#55A couple of our employees from Syria also got blocked today. They were using Slack from Syria though. EDIT: I don't understand why they ban/block the account rather than "simply" block access from IPs from the country. This seems really strange and overreaching.
> They were using Slack from Syria though. This doesn't excuse anything. People in Syria are people too. This is similar to how people were calling for websites to block access to Europe over the copyright thing. The internet is a place where you don't even need to have a nationality. It is a place where we can all exist as pure thoughts. Why are we letting politics fuck it up?
Politics is just people, and we’re all people.
Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada
#56Smart move. This shouldn't surprise anyone that makes a point of avoiding US prosecution and jail: https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/07/huawei-cfo-accused-of-frau... https://www.bassberrygovcontrade.com/iran-sanction-violation...
Banning people because of the country they were born in is not "smart", it's abhorrent. That the US, supposedly the leader of the free world, is threatening prosecution and jail to those who want to treat everyone in the world equally, is a ludicrous state of affairs.
Country is made up of its citizens.
If a country does smth, citizens are punished.
This has been case throughout the history.
Alexander took the losing kingdom's citizen as slaves and American bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, again the citizens of Japan who were living there.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
So if you once log in during a holiday trip to iran your account gets blocked
Iran's been on my list of "wanna go" destinations for a while (Food and architecture mainly). Looks like I'd have to choose between that and having any connection with a US based company. Great.
You will use internet through SSH tunnel or VPN anyway as otherwise internet is useless in Iran. I was there this September.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Banning people because of the country they were born in is not "smart", it's abhorrent. That the US, supposedly the leader of the free world, is threatening prosecution and jail to those who want to treat everyone in the world equally, is a ludicrous state of affairs.
Country is made up of its citizens. If a country does smth, citizens are punished. This has been case throughout the history. Alexander took the losing kingdom's citizen as slaves and American bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, again the citizens of Japan who were living there.
So when were the citizens of the US punished for their government bombing Japan?
EDIT: Also, in a different comment in this thread, you claim to be Iranian. Why are you defending sanctions against the country that you are from?
Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada
#59I think Slack is sending a clear and strong message: use a VPN!
Re: Slack closes account of an Iranian user living in Canada
#60Why don't you use a free alternative as Matrix? If you self host, then you are the only one who controls who your users are.
It's not always your choice, and getting an organization to switch may be quite hard. Although Slack seems to be trying to help by pulling a stunt like this.