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Wework Brooklyn #22 LLC signs the lease with the landlord and thus is responsible for the lease obligations. Wework LLC (proper) guarantees these lease payments for only 6- 12 months of the lease. After this time the only party responsible for the lease is the LLC that was formed. Landlords are likely agreeing to this only because Wework would never be able to sign a lease with any owner if they defaulted on a locati…
donedeals is another fake account from wework.
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The subsidiary signs the 15-year lease, not WeWork. So basically if the location turns out to be unprofitable, the subsidiary goes out of business or goes bankrupt and WeWork isn't stuck with the lease. From the landlord's perspective, yes it is basically equivalent to a year lease with option to extend... not totally clear why the landlord would agree to that.
Must be nice to be an immortal corporation that can just spin off any debts you don't want to pay, while mere mortals with finite lifespans and education debt and medical debt and credit card debt cannot unless we die.
There is nothing preventing you from doing this as an individual as well. The hard part isn’t the subsidiary or LLC, it’s getting the counter party to enter into an agreement with an entity containing no assets or long term viability.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Must be nice to be an immortal corporation that can just spin off any debts you don't want to pay, while mere mortals with finite lifespans and education debt and medical debt and credit card debt cannot unless we die.
Fairly certain at least some of those debts can get passed on to your estate and/or children.
You can never involuntarily inherit debt in the US. You have to be a co-signer to begin with.
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donedeals is another fake account from wework.
Why would someone from wework want to outline their lack of lease liability. I don't see how anything I commented was positive or negative, I stated some facts.
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#75> WeWork forms a subsidiary to represent each lease deal, which means individual locations could fold without leaving the company itself with much risk. The parent company only guarantees the lease for about six to 12 months on a 15-year agreement, according to documents associated with WeWork’s inaugural bond offering. So, they sign a 15-year lease but are only on the hook for the first year? How does that work? Sou…
Wework Brooklyn #22 LLC signs the lease with the landlord and thus is responsible for the lease obligations. Wework LLC (proper) guarantees these lease payments for only 6- 12 months of the lease. After this time the only party responsible for the lease is the LLC that was formed. Landlords are likely agreeing to this only because Wework would never be able to sign a lease with any owner if they defaulted on a locati…
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#76At the end of the day WeWork is essentially a middle man. If the model catches on landlords can make WeWork irrelevant by just adapting and offering “WeWork” style coworking space thus it’s not clear what the end game of all this is. If it fails it fails. If it succeeds it’s super easy to copy and cut them out of the equation. WeWork as a company is also becoming increasingly unfocused. They’re getting into everythin…
I don't agree that landlords can easily replicate WeWork. First of all WeWork has an incredible brand, and great processes/assets that let them run co-working spaces more profitably. Amazon seems like a counter point to your focus point too.
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As the recession deepens, WeWork will surely eventually implode. I can see it now: vast swathes of empty commercial real estate. If you thought ghost malls were bad, wait until you see ghost WeWorks.
> As the recession deepens Deepens ? We're not in a recession, and we haven't been for nearly a decade. It's true that, by historical standards, we're arguably overdue for a recession, but the word "recession" is precisely defined, and the US unambiguously does not meet the criteria for being in one.
There is a non-negligible portion of people who have bought into the political narrative that “stock market volatility = recession”. It’s political in the sense that “the economy can’t possibly be good with the current leadership”. Don’t waste your breath arguing with it because it’s politics, not facts or rationality.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Must be nice to be an immortal corporation that can just spin off any debts you don't want to pay, while mere mortals with finite lifespans and education debt and medical debt and credit card debt cannot unless we die.
What if I told you that you can create and own corporations too?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As the recession deepens Deepens ? We're not in a recession, and we haven't been for nearly a decade. It's true that, by historical standards, we're arguably overdue for a recession, but the word "recession" is precisely defined, and the US unambiguously does not meet the criteria for being in one.
>Deepens? We're not in a recession, and we haven't been for nearly a decade. There is a non-negligible portion of people who have bought into the political narrative that “stock market volatility = recession”. It’s political in the sense that “the economy can’t possibly be good with the current leadership”. Don’t waste your breath arguing with it because it’s politics, not facts or rationality.
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#80Uh oh, another overpriced company funded by Softbank. Softbank, remember, is funded by Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund. They're also behind Uber. They seem to be the world's largest source of dumb money. I wonder what the big customer lease deals with WeWork look like. They probably don't get the markup they do with little tenants.
As the recession deepens, WeWork will surely eventually implode. I can see it now: vast swathes of empty commercial real estate. If you thought ghost malls were bad, wait until you see ghost WeWorks.
Are there really that many locations? I've seen a lot of malls, I've literally never seen a WeWork in person.