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$80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
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Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think making massive money on crap that enables you to spend time on things you actually do value - be they other apps, a family, hobby or passion to save the world - is a perfectly valid way to live life. Your post sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.
Well, have fun doing your human exploitation startups. It's not for me, I can't do it. It's just not in me. It's not sour grapes, it's just utter incomprehension on why anyone would spend their life exploiting others. I just don't understand the motivation behind it. I actually do not think it's a perfectly valid way of life, I think it's evil and sociopathic. But that's my opinion and you have yours. Happiness is di…
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Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#73Did anyone actually ask them to verify these numbers? Did a third party do so? Extraordinary claims ($80K a month) require extra-ordinary evidence. They don't even really seem to know what their revenue is like, but their fairly certain about the large size of the numbers... normally, that's the smell of bullshit. Tom Vu's girlfriend wants to see the proof of these claims.
Ahh, Tom Vu. Whatever happened to him and his late night infomercials? I remember his great quote - "Do you think these girls like me? NO, they like my money!"
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#74I'm curious about the ad networks that are used in these apps. I read the interview transcript and it says that AdMob was used at first and then they switched to "AdWorld" (which I assume was a transcription error and it meant AdWhirl). If Mike or Quoc are reading, or if anyone else has any insights, I'd be interested in hearing more.
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#75I don't know what to think about stories such as these to be honest. My inner entrepreneur says "Wow, great job guys! I wish you every success". My inner software developer winces, and fears, both professionally and personally, that the ever-growing number of such low-quality apps will eventually make it pointless for developers to invest in creating a ConvertBot or Instagram. (FWIW I currently make $15k a month from…
Has the ever-growing number of free, low-quality web pages made it pointless to sell stuff on the Internet? I love free competitors. They make excellent places to place ads. ("Want to try a solution for this that doesn't suck?")
So two things
- You're conflating a medium (the web) with an action (selling). An excess of crappy websites do not compete with a subscription to Dropbox for example, and there are not hundreds of Basecamp alternatives. A more accurate phrasing for your analogy would be "... made it pointless to charge for access to higher quality webpages". And I would say that yes, there are few examples of pay-walled webpages being sustainable businesses.
- Placing ads is great, providing that a) you can accurately target competitor products and b) the sales you gain are greater than your per-user cost of acquisition. If you have experience of making this work in the mobile space it'd be great if you would share.
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#76I'm curious about the ad networks that are used in these apps. I read the interview transcript and it says that AdMob was used at first and then they switched to "AdWorld" (which I assume was a transcription error and it meant AdWhirl). If Mike or Quoc are reading, or if anyone else has any insights, I'd be interested in hearing more.
We use Adwhirl to run in this order - iAd, Adsense, Admob. iAd has been making us the most money so we give it the highest priority.
We also use transpera and greystripe in some of our apps.
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a great point. Looking at these apps, they're certainly not anything like ConvertBot or Instagram. As an app developer myself, I think I could have easily made most of these apps in my spare time without a ton of design skill, yet they're really successful. Definitely food for though.
What food for thought? Choose to throw your life away on meaningless shit so you can say you made some money, or do something you care about? Most of us here could easily make a $200k consulting a year. Does it make you happy? No. Would making shite apps and essentially scamming people make most of the people here happy? No. You gotta remember that the kind of person who does this kind of shit is basically a bit of a…
Photo cropping, unit conversion, and medical dictionary apps were some the examples mentioned. They don't misrepresent their offerings, they fulfill a legitimate need, they aren't spamming -- you have to search out and install it -- and the apps are free. If you aren't happy with the product you can readily delete it. I have a hard time seeing how anyone is being 'conned' here. Clearly it's not a huge contribution to society, but what's the injustice that has got you so riled up?
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has the ever-growing number of free, low-quality web pages made it pointless to sell stuff on the Internet? I love free competitors. They make excellent places to place ads. ("Want to try a solution for this that doesn't suck?")
So two things - You're conflating a medium (the web) with an action (selling). An excess of crappy websites do not compete with a subscription to Dropbox for example, and there are not hundreds of Basecamp alternatives. A more accurate phrasing for your analogy would be "... made it pointless to charge for access to higher quality webpages". And I would say that yes, there are few examples of pay-walled webpages bein…
I'm just talking from my bingo experience, where I've been told many, many, many times that the instant I have free competition means my lunch gets eaten. (I have free competitors, and they're essentially outsourced customer acquisition that work for peanuts.)
I don't have any experience with mobile. Anecdotally, the CPM rates I've heard for mobile make customer acquisition seem prohibitively expensive for cheap apps, but an explosion of CPM inventory from a wave of free applications lacking in quality means that prices must come down eventually. Increase in supply tends to decrease prices, just like Demand Media exerts a downward influence on my CPAs (while shifting more of my spend away from quality sites and to Demand Media outlets).
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think making massive money on crap that enables you to spend time on things you actually do value - be they other apps, a family, hobby or passion to save the world - is a perfectly valid way to live life. Your post sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.
Well, have fun doing your human exploitation startups. It's not for me, I can't do it. It's just not in me. It's not sour grapes, it's just utter incomprehension on why anyone would spend their life exploiting others. I just don't understand the motivation behind it. I actually do not think it's a perfectly valid way of life, I think it's evil and sociopathic. But that's my opinion and you have yours. Happiness is di…
How is it evil exploiting stupid people? A fool and his money are soon parted are they not?
Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It definitely creates a lot of noise and worries me as someone who is just about to enter the mobile app market. I just finished some iOS training and am working on my first paid app. What would you say is the key to getting where you are? Apps with true utility–or something else?
I would recommend you do two things: 1) Create one app to throw-away - something that's simple, useful to you, and which you are confident you can create. Don't worry about there being hundreds of similar apps. This is your Learner app. Get it together in a few weeks and put it on the app store for $1-$2. Make sure you have some "please leave a review / send email" link that makes it a no-brainer for people to give y…
> Launch at $1 for a week, and cut the price to $1 for a week for every update. It does make a difference IME.
I see a lot of apps cutting their price to $0 for a few days. Does this technique work? What are the advantages of doing this?