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‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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This is a zoning issue, not a marijuana issue. Why did the government allow a greenhouse which was zoned for daises swap to marijuana? Yes, marijuana stinks. So do slaughter houses and landfills. There's a reason we don't zone these near residential areas.

Why allow it?

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Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry. Experience from Washington and Colorado shows that over time smokers move to vaping and concentrate because it's vastly more convenient than carrying a bunch of plant matter around. The vape cartridges and the concentrate wax are essentially scent-free. Certainly less smelly than nicotine and recreational non-drug vapes. Industrial production will move out into the country as with any agricultural or liv…

How is a vape pen more convenient than a couple of joints? The joints don't require batteries and after you smoke them there's nothing to carry around!

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Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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post #39
post #25

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These are ordinary legal businesses. They don't murder people, any more than liquor store owners shoot at each other. Not resorting to extra-legal means to settle business disputes is one of the big advantages of decriminalization.

They aren't ordinary legal businesses. It is a fact that they are still illegal under federal law, regardless of whether you or I agree with that. If you have ever spent any time in Humboldt County, you would know that if you don't enjoy being shot at, you should stay away from marijuana grow operations.

The federal government is mostly irrelevant here. If they started busting state-level-legal grow operations in a more than symbolic manner, they'd find themselves in uncomfortable conflict with state governments. And with states decriminalizing at a rapid pace, the problem gets even bigger. Eventually, the federal government will throw in the towel.

As for Humboldt County grow operations... see what I wrote earlier about the benefits of decriminalization. There's no reason for legal businesses to shoot at anyone. They're supposed to call the cops when they need someone shot, and they do. Shooting trespassers at rural grow operations is an anachronism from the days when that was their only recourse to defend their business.

Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

#45
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry. Experience from Washington and Colorado shows that over time smokers move to vaping and concentrate because it's vastly more convenient than carrying a bunch of plant matter around. The vape cartridges and the concentrate wax are essentially scent-free. Certainly less smelly than nicotine and recreational non-drug vapes. Industrial production will move out into the country as with any agricultural or liv…

How is a vape pen more convenient than a couple of joints? The joints don't require batteries and after you smoke them there's nothing to carry around!

Vape pens are more convenient for doses smaller than an entire joint. Putting out a joint and carrying it is messy, smelly, and it won't taste as good when re-lit. They each have pros and cons.

Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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post #38

Ultimately, this is an ordinary agriculture problem. The media will be all "WOOO POT!" about it because it's new and controversial, but the odor problem is the same problem you get from all sorts of farming practices, some of which smell considerably worse than even a big pot farm (which is pretty stinky). It'll get solved the way all such problems get solved - zoning. Same thing that keeps you from having a hog farm…

Not to mention, one of the people in the article who is complaining about the pot lives right next to a stinky dairy farm:

"But she says she made the choice to live next to a dairy farm and prefers that smell to the odor that drifted over from the marijuana farm next door to her house."

So it's okay to make a smell if it's one you prefer. If you're some whacko anti-pot person who thinks that it's going to destroy society, you'll find any reason to not like the pot.

Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

#48
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry. Experience from Washington and Colorado shows that over time smokers move to vaping and concentrate because it's vastly more convenient than carrying a bunch of plant matter around. The vape cartridges and the concentrate wax are essentially scent-free. Certainly less smelly than nicotine and recreational non-drug vapes. Industrial production will move out into the country as with any agricultural or liv…

How is a vape pen more convenient than a couple of joints? The joints don't require batteries and after you smoke them there's nothing to carry around!

The pen-style batteries charge from USB and are as easy to carry around as a pen or, say, a lighter. Do you normally light a joint and discard the lighter? Are you carrying around one strike-anywhere match per joint?

The user pushes a button, breathes in some vaporized oil, and puts the battery back in their pocket or bag. It takes about four seconds. A user could do this in a bathroom, a confessional at church, on a bus or on a train.

It is much easier than setting something on fire, passing it around while it's burning, and then putting that fire out.

A gram cartridge is about the size of a pen cap, lasts even a heavy user for a week or more, and doesn't make the user's bag smell like weed.

Are you imagining those giant wizard vapes that are the size of a pack of cards?

Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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post #4
post #3

I wonder if this is worse than living near a hog farm?

As a former resident of Indiana, no, it's not. Different, yes, but nothing is quite as bad as a holding pond at a hog farm on a hot summer's day.

Oh yes, there are worse things: chicken farms. Hog farms are certainly smelly but chicken farms are... disgusting in a way all of their own, a nauseating smell which makes you glad you did not eat a big lunch. I've lived on a (small scale) hog farm - studying at an agricultural university, being in need of a place to live and finding a farmer who had a cabin on his farm ready for rent leads to such - and have cycled through areas with chicken farms.

I studied forestry and know what I prefer on a hot summer's day, the orangey tang of a Douglas fir stand or the resinous smell in a pine forest on sandy soil are infinitely preferable over both hogs and chickens. Or weed, for that matter.

Re: ‘Dead Skunk’ Stench from Marijuana Farms Outrages Californians

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post #38

Ultimately, this is an ordinary agriculture problem. The media will be all "WOOO POT!" about it because it's new and controversial, but the odor problem is the same problem you get from all sorts of farming practices, some of which smell considerably worse than even a big pot farm (which is pretty stinky). It'll get solved the way all such problems get solved - zoning. Same thing that keeps you from having a hog farm…

Zoning has been the most controversial part of the pot ordinance the jurisdiction I work for is trying to build. The residents resent the smell, but the home medical cannabis growers object to the limitations of the proposed ordinance, and the large growers are trying to reduce their transport costs by insinuating themselves closer to the retail outlets. There are tons of moving parts and many players are part of multiple groups, which means they may have conflicting motivations, and our governing body is certainly not of one mind on the issue either.
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