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The Dating Brokers: An autopsy of online love

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Re: The Dating Brokers: An autopsy of online love

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Post by IggleSniggle »

mattbierner wrote: post #88
julienmarie wrote: post #50

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I made that mistake when launching my first dating website By trying to be more efficient. Unfortunately, this market is not about dating, it's a dopamine delivery market. You want to keep people long, increase your LTV, show them an ever better possible "match" so you never settle. You don't want them to actually meet someone. Hence the crappy chat features ( while the rest of the tech stack is usually pretty solid…

Have any companies in the market been successful going the premium route? A service that costs a lot but is designed for the best user experience and outcomes? Maybe they interview potential members in person and work to ensure the “marketplace” has a good balance. Or maybe they take a more active role in the pairing. Starts sounding like a matchmaker. For a dating service company not to be overly incentivized to kee…

There was a season of Startup where the startup attempted this approach. The company was (is?) called Dating Ring. https://www.gimletmedia.com/startup/origin-story-season-2-1-...

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Post by drewg123 »

acheron wrote: post #108
drewg123 wrote: post #29

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I met my wife when she asked me how to get out of vi. She was a new PhD student, and I was the departmental sysadmin. To be fair to her, she knew vi just fine, but we had these messed up DEC keyboards with no ESC, where ESC was mapped to F11.

Best comment. > but we had these messed up DEC keyboards with no ESC One of these things? https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:LK201AA_top.jpg I'd have trouble getting out of vi with that too.

Yes, exactly. We had a combination of DECstation 2100 and 3100s for the grad students to use.

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Post by parliament32 »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #69

I used to work for a German dating site called friendscout24 when it was still in it's early stages. we worked with a psychologist to help improve the quality of the match-making logic (now be2.com). I didn't really care too much about the product back then and was mostly trying to scale the backend which was my passion. Linux, Java lot of traffic and scaling issues everywhere in these pre-cloud days. The whole thing…

Thank you for the extensive writeup, this is a fascinating view into the progression (regression?) of an online dating firm.

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Post by paulie_a »

magduf wrote: post #107
paulie_a wrote: post #27

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Bumble has a lot of professionals and will actually want to meet within a few messages back and forth. Tinder is a lot of people that "hate drama", ie they crave it. I have met quite a few very pleasant people but we just mutually realized "not for me" after a date or two. We wished each other luck and parted ways. In the case of bumble in my experience there is an emotional maturity and interesting people. But appar…

That gives me a great idea for a profitable new business: a website where you upload some photos of yourself, and it photoshops them onto a background of Machu Picchu so it looks like you went there for vacation, and can use this on dating apps. I agree, it does seem ridiculous: here in the DC area, it does seem that every single professional woman over 30 has such a photo.

Stage two: T-Rex skeleton background.

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Post by Carpetsmoker »

drewg123 wrote: post #112
acheron wrote: post #108

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Best comment. > but we had these messed up DEC keyboards with no ESC One of these things? https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:LK201AA_top.jpg I'd have trouble getting out of vi with that too.

Yes, exactly. We had a combination of DECstation 2100 and 3100s for the grad students to use.

So how do you get out of vi with that keyboard?

Re: The Dating Brokers: An autopsy of online love

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Post by magduf »

paulie_a wrote: post #114
magduf wrote: post #107

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That gives me a great idea for a profitable new business: a website where you upload some photos of yourself, and it photoshops them onto a background of Machu Picchu so it looks like you went there for vacation, and can use this on dating apps. I agree, it does seem ridiculous: here in the DC area, it does seem that every single professional woman over 30 has such a photo.

Stage two: T-Rex skeleton background.

Why do you say that? I haven't seen a lot of photos like that on womens' profiles; in fact, I don't think I've seen any.

But strangely, I actually have a photo just like that on my profile! It was taken at the NYC Natural History museum.

For women's profiles, the stereotypical photos are: 1) Macchu Picchu 2) at a bar with an alcoholic drink in-hand, frequently looking drunk 3) at a beach 4) in bed, cuddling with a big smelly dog 5) at a gun range These are pretty typical of 30+ white women in the DC area, though they're never seen all in the same profile (the women who like guns don't go to Macchu Picchu).

Also, you say that in your experience on Bumble, women are more emotionally mature. In my experience there, I'd say there seem to be more professional women there, but if you're not a big bar-goer and drinker, you're not going to do well there, at least in this city. Also, the women there seem to be almost all white and black; all the Asians seem to be on CMB, which is where I get the vast majority of my dates.

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Post by cies »

watwut wrote: post #90
cies wrote: post #78

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I feel that the new "PC" word for race is ethnicity. As I understand it serves pretty much the same purpose.

Ethnicity is defined primary through shared history and social grouping. Race is defined through genetics. They share some of the same, but are not the same.

> Ethnicity is defined primary through shared history and social grouping.

Agreed. But I feel ethnicity is "used" in a way like "race".

> Race is defined through genetics.

Sure? I thought genetically race had a very weak basis, and that it was basically some aspects of bodily looks and location of genetical/blood origination? The main reason we needed ethnicity as a term, because race was "simply not there in the genes" and thus "mostly about looks" which gave it very little use in proper science.

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Post by ra__mm »

matte_black wrote: post #58
toomuchtodo wrote: post #55

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Nope, probably free for the taking through an obscure, unsecured API endpoint/route.

Any case studies? I once found a vulnerable API endpoint for a staffing company and ended up exporting their whole client database.

what we strongly believe, USDate web-scraped plenty of fish... already for a very long time. if you go on that site, you will see how easy it is.

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Post by ra__mm »

weavie wrote: post #23
blattimwind wrote: post #7

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Turning on reader mode has it display the massive GDPR waiver / "partners list" instead of the actual article :)

It seems turning on reader mode displays the gdpr waiver, but then if you refresh the page it shows the article. I'd be interested to know how they managed to achieve that. The waiver doesn't seem to appear in the html source.. so I'm not sure where it is coming from and it is now too late in the day for me to investigate it further..

hi, i developed that page. But I don't really understand what you mean

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Post by watwut »

cies wrote: post #117
watwut wrote: post #90

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Ethnicity is defined primary through shared history and social grouping. Race is defined through genetics. They share some of the same, but are not the same.

> Ethnicity is defined primary through shared history and social grouping. Agreed. But I feel ethnicity is "used" in a way like "race". > Race is defined through genetics. Sure? I thought genetically race had a very weak basis, and that it was basically some aspects of bodily looks and location of genetical/blood origination? The main reason we needed ethnicity as a term, because race was "simply not there in the gen…

I don't think I agree with second. Germans have clearly different culture, language, habits, preferences, values and humor then Czechs. Wo ha different all above from French.

A lot of it remains when group emirates but keeps being close knit.

That is ethicity.

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