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Re: Ask HN: What martial arts do you practice? What do you recommend?

#41
I've already added a comment about a particular martial art. But I think that you could also narrow it down through a kind of decision tree:

Do you want to be 'badass'? Do you care whether there is a philosophy side to it? Do you want to have a grading system (belts, for instance)? Is it important to have a 'pure' art - or would a school that 'takes the best from different arts' sound better? Can you just sit on the side at a school to watch a lesson (call first so they can suggest a suitable lesson)? Do you want to be able to demonstrate to your friends? Do you want to be able to do a 'form' (solo, regimented practice)? Do you want to be taught 'weapons'?

Is the school run for love or money? Are the other students people who you feel comfortable with? Can you respect the teacher(s)?

Of course, other people have asked all the above questions better : http://everything2.com/title/Things+to+consider+when+choosin... - but I must emphasise the importance of making sure the school is right for you ...

Re: Ask HN: What martial arts do you practice? What do you recommend?

#42

If you just want fitness/exercise, might I recommend parkour? Most people don't consider it a martial art, but they do consider it a discipline rather than a sport. It requires the same level of dedication and practice to be good at, and enhances your world view in a similar way to martial arts. The real benefit, I find, is that it is far more social than martial arts; there's a great community of traceurs around the…

Actually you should watch the documentary on Youtube called "The Nature of Challenge" - if that doesn't convince you then nothing will :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poph6Jmc688

Re: Ask HN: What martial arts do you practice? What do you recommend?

#43
Practicality is important to me, and difficult to judge without some experience. Properly practiced Jujitsu, Sambo and Krav Maga are practical. There are useful lessons in Muay Thai and hard American kickboxing. Judo is acceptable, particularly if you are not possessed of great strength. Wing Chun's pitch sounds reasonable, but I cannot speak to its efficacy.

Avoid most schools of Karate (Kenpo especially), Capoeira, Aikido, Tae Kwan Do, and most of Kung Fu.

In any case, there are bad instructors to be found for every art. Caution is in order.

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I've been doing brazilian jiu-jitsu for about 5 years, and would highly recommend it to anyone. I know a wide range of people who practice it, from professional fighters to little kids to a guy in his 60s. I think it fits especially well for the HN crowd, because there's generally very little mystical bs that goes on, and although this analogy gets abused, it's basically human chess. There's a very analytical approac…

Totally agree on this. I've been training for 5 years. It has a very low barrier to entry (you get to spar on your first day) and nearly infinite variations on a small set of moves.

A really cool thing about it is that, unlike most martial arts, it's not attribute based (eg: boxing, were you need speed and strength and weight) that it's possible to see 125lb players going against 205lb opponents and winning (or at least surviving)

It's very pragmatic, all the mystical components have been stripped out (it's actually a disadvantage in BJJ); in my opinion, the only other martial art that could go toe-to-toe with a BJJ practitioner would be a Muay Thai fighter - but then if the fight goes to ground (which is almost a given for almost any fight) then it's over.

BJJ is akin to playing Chess.

Re: Ask HN: What martial arts do you practice? What do you recommend?

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried other martial arts like karate or taekwondo? How does it compare? I recently moved to Toronto and have yet to find a great (ie. non belt promotion based) school downtown. I've found a number of potential BJJ schools though and have been curious.

I did taekwondo when I was little and I know some people who still do it. All martial arts are technical once you get into them, but grappling is different from striking in that what you do with your body is very similar to following a decision tree. Eventually these decisions get internalized into your muscle memory, but there's still a high degree of "if he does A, I'll do B, which will leave me open to C and D, wh…

but I personally don't find taekwondo and karate to be particularly realistic to fighting.

I have fairly high level belts in several arts. My father put my in Judo when I was 4, jiu-jitsu and Taekwondo by 6. While there are some Karate styles that have become obsolete with more contemporary arts surpassing them (Kempo comes to mind). I believe that Taekwondo is still a very relevant art even for combat.

Taekwondo while extremely difficult due to the technical kicking requirements is by far the most superior kicking art. The problem is that it is not a rounded art. In combat you cannot rely on the fact that you will land the kick ever time and Taekwondo does not really focus on that fact, it has to be augmented with another art. Which usually in Taekwondo schools is Hapkido. The problem is Hapkido is inferior to Aikido or jiu-jitsu.

That being said, my son is now 4 and the first art I enrolled him in was Taekwondo. Doing so will allow him to develop superior kicking technique which take the body the longest time to develop and some people after aging are never able to achieve the limberness required to master Taekwondo.

I agree with you to the extent that Taekwondo on it's own does not round a person enough to be confident in a street fight. But as an augmentation to other arts it will give you superior leg work over any other art and is very relevant to modern street combat. In the few altercations, that I could not avoid getting into, 2 where ended by a single kick and both where head kicks that are only taught in Taekwondo, so it is effective you just cannot rely on it as your only weapon.

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I've been doing Wing Tsun kung fu for over ten years. If you find a good school, it's a very methodical, highly intelligent and very technical martial art. There's a lot of depth to it, and as you get better, it gets more and more subtle (as well as a lot more effective). Unfortunately, there's also a lot of schools that are not very good (as with any martial art), so your experience may vary. In my experience, the g…

Muay thai - not much technique or sensitivity involved." What. Have you ever been thai clinched? Have you ever had your kick blocked, shin on shin?

Yup. That hurts like hell. I try to catch the kick with my calf and turn it away, but it's difficult. Timing and distance is everything.

I probably spoke rashly though, I don't really know enough about it to make generalizations like that. I take it back.

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I've been doing brazilian jiu-jitsu for about 5 years, and would highly recommend it to anyone. I know a wide range of people who practice it, from professional fighters to little kids to a guy in his 60s. I think it fits especially well for the HN crowd, because there's generally very little mystical bs that goes on, and although this analogy gets abused, it's basically human chess. There's a very analytical approac…

I started practicing BJJ a few months back. I loved it. It is like chess, but physical. Unfortunately, I was in the receiving end of a neck crank. I was injured (cervical hernia). So if you practice BJJ make sure that you are always safe and don`t hesitate to tap.

Whoever applied the crank on you, wasn't being careful (especially if it was someone more experienced or higher belt) - you can always stop short of finishing the move against someone and wait for them to tap.

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I've been doing Wing Tsun kung fu for over ten years. If you find a good school, it's a very methodical, highly intelligent and very technical martial art. There's a lot of depth to it, and as you get better, it gets more and more subtle (as well as a lot more effective). Unfortunately, there's also a lot of schools that are not very good (as with any martial art), so your experience may vary. In my experience, the g…

It's easy to take Muay Thai classes or watch it and think it's not very technical, especially in the US because Americans are generally not very good at Muay Thai. But going to Thailand and getting your ass kicked and thrown all over the place by a 16 year old thai kid half your size will make you change your mind that it's not a technical sport.

You're right, I overgeneralized. I guess I was thinking about the emphasis on and endless hours of sensitivity reflex training we go through, and I never saw that in Muay Thai - only sparring. So I was just speaking from my narrow idea of what 'technical' means, I didn't stop to think that other people will interpret that differently. My apologies, once again.

Re: Ask HN: What martial arts do you practice? What do you recommend?

#49
Geekdom and martial arts seem to be closely related, possibly for painfully obvious reasons that mostly reflect poorly on the geeks and the martial arts in question.

If you want to learn to defend yourself and/or get fit, box, wrestle, do Muay Thai, Judo, Brazilian Juijitsu, etc. That is, something that's practiced live against people who aren't cooperating. The downside is that the techniques will also be done to you.

On the other hand, if you want to put on strange clothes and raise your self-esteem by hanging out with a bunch of dudes in the same strange clothes, almost anything will work. Aikido, Ninjitsu, and similar arts are very popular among computing types as they offer the promise of combat effectiveness without being pounded on in the same way you'll experience if you come up in a 'live' art.

Re: Ask HN: What martial arts do you practice? What do you recommend?

#50
I've been practising martial arts for quite some time. First I started with Capoeira (looks good, doesn't work in a fight) then I switched to Wing Tsun (looks like crap, very effective in a fight).

I've been practising WT for about 6 years. I basically changed from "the guy who punches like a girl and can't take a hit" to "the crazy guy who just took down someone twice his size". Our organization (Avci WT System) is also being practiced by German Special Police commandos, so I can say it is based on practical applications & dirty fighting rather than "just dojo" action.

If you really want to get competent in a real life fighting situation you should definitely go for a heavy contact martial art such as muay thai, krav maga, wing tsun etc.

Also carrying a kubotan as a keychain helps a lot.

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