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>75 seconds is really, really long. Cars on a highway don't leave 75 seconds in between each other ..and? A car also doesn't carry 500 people.
But 75 cars spaced 1 second apart...
Are they really boring tunnels cheaper and faster than traditional construction companies though? Seems like that's the real goal with the company.
Yes, mentioned in live stream was that other co’s only spend 1/5 the time actually boring and the rest on logistics of putting up retaining walls and the like. Part of Boring Co innovation is to automate that and keep the borer working all the time. Also they 3x’d the energy output of the boring machine vs competitors. Should add up.
Was certainly how the CrossRail and Channel tunnel machines worked
See diagram on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17365934
Musk keeps showing this comparatively tiny machine, whereas in reality they're 150m long
The tone of the article is surprisingly hostile. Maybe I'm just used to Canadian media.
See all the negative comments in this thread, for example.
Instead saying "Jeez, this looks interesting. I'm happy some billionaire is trying to fix the horrible traffic problem instead of just buying more McMansions and yatchs. It seems complicated and I'm not sure it will work because of reason x, y and z, but it will be cool to watch!"
The collective American voice is now: "Stupid! Will never work! Waste of time!". (And angrily at that)
It's a real shame, because people who genuinely try to make life better for others are rare, and America needs all of them they can get!
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Well even if it weren't higher capacity, it has other advantages -- no parking/leaving the car, potentially no ticket gates or waiting for a train... etc. Trying new ideas isn't a waste of everyone's time, it's research.
and if it doesn't work out, it can always be converted to rail
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You're comparing a prototype with a real life operating system that was built to be um, you know safe and good, unlike what has been shown with this prototype. The fact is that a 500 capacity train running at 75-100s headways destroys this system capacitywise. Musk has a long, long way to go before he shows that this idea of his is better than the 1986 era technology at the core of Vancouver's system.
> The fact is that a 500 capacity train running at 75-100s headways destroys this system capacitywise. This is like that linked tweet: all assertion, no data. What are you using to estimate the theoretical throughput of a Boring Co tunnel system vs Skytrain? Let's debate that. Right now it's all just thin air. Assumptions I'm willing to believe, and thus make me interested in this prototype's viability: 1. Cars need…
And we also assume that all cars can enter and exit the system with no delays.
It'll be a miracle if it reaches bus capacity, much less train/subway capacity: https://www.thoughtco.com/passenger-capacity-of-transit-2798...
What a gong show and waste of everyone's time. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1075230308545454080 How can this man honestly think this sort of system could be higher capacity than a subway?
It's not about capacity. It's about convenience. Subway systems are absolutely useless unless the stations are spaced very close together and there are other means of transit from the station to where you want to go. There is no point taking the subway when you need to walk several miles from the station to your ultimate destination. There are only a handful of cities in the United States dense enough for a useful su…
Sooo... How is Musks' solution different? It's absolutely useless unless you have entry and exit points spaced very close together and there are means of transit from the exit point to where you want to go. You basically create chokepoints at each of those entries and exits.
Worth considering that a single family luxury car is not the only vehicle type that could be in these tunnels. Automation allows for all sorts of new options in vehicles. This is a platform and many services can sit atop it. No reason why people can’t develop a carpooling service for 6-12 person vans and run those on this. Or services that travel to clients rather than visa versa. Also, and very important to the cost…
Why would I take a van if I could take my own luxury car? If I was going to take a van I might as well take the subway. It would probably be more comfortable and roomy.
Imagine if there were other people in the world.
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Why not do "the stations are spaced very close together and there are other means of transit from the station to where you want to go." Scooters and bikes are a great way to do the latter.
> Why not do "the stations are spaced very close together and there are other means of transit from the station to where you want to go." Scooters and bikes are a great way to do the latter. No they are not. Scooters and bikes are a great way to arrive at your destination sweaty, and you are at great risk of being run over by cars. Multi-modal transportation only works if your coworkers don't care what you smell like…
It works when the city has embraced it. E.g., in Sweden most workplaces have showers.