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Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Colin, they didn't say much about their marketing. Do you think they're doing any app store SEO?

How does app-store SEO work? I sell some apps on the app store, but I've never tried to market them (and have pretty anemic sales as a result). Does SEO tend to be black hat (hire people to rate it?) or ad-driven?

i think it has more to do with having possible search terms as your app title

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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$80k a month in ad revenue by making the following apps for $2k a pop on Elance? Record Video for Free 911 Police Radio Free! Battery Box 3-in-1 Find Sex Offenders Free! Dash of Color FREE MovieFX for Free Convert Units for Free FilterFX HDR Fisheye in 1 Fisheye for Free FilterFX for Free Flash for Free HDR for Free Convert Units Free HD I know people are saying the gold rush is over, but that is ridiculous .

These guys struck me more like frat boys than SW Devs. They both said they are SW Eng but they totally shied away from going into any details about that. They didn't know any of their stats. Andrew had to walk them through their profitability numbers, wtf?

Used to be SW devs. I used to do .NET programming for a big DOD contractor, then worked for a local internet startup for while, but why talk about my old career? That would have been boring. Plus as we tried to explain, at some point you have to let go and not micro manage every individual stat and app. I'm sure if we did that we could make some more money by optimizing, but that's not what our business approach was about. We wanted simple, stress free which gives us time to do other things. We're not experts, we don't have a degree in business or anything like that. Just 2 27 year old guys from San Diego who wanted to make a couple iphone apps.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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I don't know what to think about stories such as these to be honest. My inner entrepreneur says "Wow, great job guys! I wish you every success". My inner software developer winces, and fears, both professionally and personally, that the ever-growing number of such low-quality apps will eventually make it pointless for developers to invest in creating a ConvertBot or Instagram. (FWIW I currently make $15k a month from…

Great comment. I just wanted to bring up a point about free-app/knock-off vs. paid quality app. I would draw a parallel with the fashion industry. Louis Vuitton, for example, will never go out of business because of Chinese knock-offs. Why? because the person who buys the knock off/cheaper product is not their target customer. Same I think is true with iPhone/iPad apps. Those users who only search for free apps and p…

Exactly. The same is true in films too.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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This sounds a bit too good to be true. How many ad impressions add up to $80,000 in a month? What is that in user hours per month for 12 or so apps? I'd be fascinated to see the financial statements, I bet we never will

It's not as outrageous as you think. Although the first month we hit big numbers we were VERY VERY surprised. Check out the paper toss guys that make 500K a month with just 5 free apps!!! http://www.develop-online.net/news/36155/Paper-Toss-dev-make...

Now THAT'S something. We're not even close to that!

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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Is it me or does it sound like they are just winging the whole business? Andrew had to pretty much coach on what to do, and what to answer. That said, they still get A+ in my books for just doing it. That's the biggest differentiator between people who find success and people who don't. Kudos.

We are and have indeed been winging the whole business. We're no business experts, we've learned a lot going through the process. It hasn't even been 2 years yet. This was our first "face to face" interview. We're not great public speakers either haha. Just going with the flow and we've been very fortunate so far.

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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It is. One of the reasons I posted this interview is that on top of doing $80k in monthly revenue, the founders are big Tim Ferriss fans and only spend an average of five hours per week on this project - one of the founders still works a full time job.

Wait, what? They do $80k in monthly revenue yet "one of the founders still works a full time job" That makes no sense...

Maybe he likes his job?

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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These guys struck me more like frat boys than SW Devs. They both said they are SW Eng but they totally shied away from going into any details about that. They didn't know any of their stats. Andrew had to walk them through their profitability numbers, wtf?

Used to be SW devs. I used to do .NET programming for a big DOD contractor, then worked for a local internet startup for while, but why talk about my old career? That would have been boring. Plus as we tried to explain, at some point you have to let go and not micro manage every individual stat and app. I'm sure if we did that we could make some more money by optimizing, but that's not what our business approach was…

So about 5 years in software development?

Re: $80,000 a Month in App Sales by Outsourcing Everything

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I don't know what to think about stories such as these to be honest. My inner entrepreneur says "Wow, great job guys! I wish you every success". My inner software developer winces, and fears, both professionally and personally, that the ever-growing number of such low-quality apps will eventually make it pointless for developers to invest in creating a ConvertBot or Instagram. (FWIW I currently make $15k a month from…

It definitely creates a lot of noise and worries me as someone who is just about to enter the mobile app market.

I just finished some iOS training and am working on my first paid app. What would you say is the key to getting where you are? Apps with true utility–or something else?

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