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Re: Windows Sandbox

#22
post #5

Sandboxie has been providing similar functionality on versions of Windows since XP: https://www.sandboxie.com/ It's probably nowhere near as elegant as the Windows 10 feature, but it should be very handy if you have older versions of Windows!

Sandboxie is a broken POS. I gave up on it a few months ago after getting tired of having to troubleshoot why another app wasn't working the way it should.

Re: Windows Sandbox

#23
post #10

Based on Hyper-V? Bummer. I use VMware Workstation at work and that’s not going to change.

For some reason with the 1809 version of Windows, I've been able to run both Hyper-V and VMWare Workstation simultaneously. Never was able to do that before. Anyway, I eventually switched for docker support, and used this powershell-based tool that converts VMWare workstation VMs to Hyper-V VMs - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=424...

I don’t build the VMs myself, they’re created as part of a CI pipeline. I once tried converting the VMs to VirtualBox while I was waiting for the VMware license—didn’t work.

But maybe it’ll work with 1809, who knows. Don’t have it yet.

Re: Windows Sandbox

#24
post #5

Sandboxie has been providing similar functionality on versions of Windows since XP: https://www.sandboxie.com/ It's probably nowhere near as elegant as the Windows 10 feature, but it should be very handy if you have older versions of Windows!

Sandboxie is a UI nightmare IMO - it took me ages to work out how to launch a single program in a sandbox.

Interesting. How long ago was this? I've used Sandboxie for around 10 years and in that entire time, it has always just been a matter of right-clicking the program and "Run Sandboxed", even trivially accessing the sandboxed start menu via the notification icon.

Re: Windows Sandbox

#26
post #19
post #2

Please do not make this a Pro / Enterprise feature. I do remote tech support for my parents and would love for them to browse / use apps in a sandbox.

That is what Windows store apps and MSIX sandbox are for.

You can't run a non-Store app in such a sandbox I believe?

Re: Windows Sandbox

#27
post #2

Please do not make this a Pro / Enterprise feature. I do remote tech support for my parents and would love for them to browse / use apps in a sandbox.

Agreed. I'd go so as far to say that consumers -- especially technologically vulnerable ones like your parents, for example -- need this more than any other demographic. Microsoft should make it easy to download, install and update on all non-Enterprise versions of the OS. This will also greatly reduce instances of a random ransomware holding critical data hostage and doing irreparable economic damage to small busine…

> Microsoft should make it easy to download, install and update on all non-Enterprise versions of the OS.

I'll take this one step further: Microsoft should make this as easy as "right click > Run in Sandbox". It would make the lives of everyone so much easier.

Re: Windows Sandbox

#28
Quick thoughts...

First thought: I'd love to be able to ship an app w/ this enabled by default (i.e. it's an ephemeral app w/ no local data storage).

Second thought: I'd love to pause this snapshot and resume it. Too many apps store preferences that you don't want to reconfigure just because you want isolation from the rest of the system each execution.

Third thought: Instead of always-dispose-on-app-close, I would like to namespace/cgroups-style it instead. This is how I would expect the Chrome equivalent of FF's "containers" would be built (I know I can --user-data-dir which is similar).

Re: Windows Sandbox

#30
post #5

Sandboxie has been providing similar functionality on versions of Windows since XP: https://www.sandboxie.com/ It's probably nowhere near as elegant as the Windows 10 feature, but it should be very handy if you have older versions of Windows!

Do you have any info that shows it's not "as elegant"? Sandboxie works great for me and has always done it's job.
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