As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening for Tech Giants

Post by Puer » Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 6:13 AM UTC

skybrian wrote: post #26

mindgam3 wrote: post #6

“Among the revelations was that Facebook obtained data from multiple partners for a controversial friend-suggestion tool called “People You May Know.” The feature, introduced in 2008, continues even though some Facebook users have objected to it, unsettled by its knowledge of their real-world relationships. Gizmodo and other news outlets have reported cases of the tool’s recommending friend connections between patien…

One possibility would be that Facebook users were supposed to be able to read, write, and delete their own chat messages via custom chat clients built by Spotify, Netflix, and so on. If so, the New York Times is throwing shade on Facebook basically for not being enough of a walled garden. I hope their journalists are not that confused?

Post by Puer » Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 6:21 AM UTC

jackvalentine wrote: post #63

Spooky23 wrote: post #46

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I’m always puzzled by the need people have to try to dispel the notion that Facebook listens to ambient audio or conversations. They are the bad guys. They didn’t need to steal Android phone logs either, but they did.

I just wish there was a way to figure out _why_ I'm getting some ads, to dispel that fear. On Instagram last weekend I and a friend were shown a number of ads for Chandon sparking wine after I bought a bottle, and someone else at the party also did and we talked about it. Both of us insist we didn't google sparkling wine, Chandon, or anything we think relevant... it really does on the face of it appear Facebook had l…

Post by Puer » Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 6:36 AM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #35

thinkloop wrote: post #29

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> to read, write and delete users’ private messages I wonder if the delete permission was by accident or whether these companies were actively deleting private messages - craziness.

Facebook's permissions scopes have never been that granular - if you get approved for a permission it's generally access to create, edit, view, and delete all in one.

Post by alexis_fr » Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 6:41 AM UTC

doodliego wrote: post #84

wmeredith wrote: post #28

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I’m sure Zuck will offer a heartfelt apology.

Hopefully from Federal prison with a life sentence. Literally billions of times he and his execs, managers, and engineers have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Electronic Communications Privacy Act, Federal Wiretap Act, and more.

Post by rabidrat » Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 6:43 AM UTC

crocodiletears wrote: post #77

malloreon wrote: post #61

Question for the most of the people who read this who will still use fb/instagram/messenger all day, or even at all: is there something so bad that fb could do that would get you to stop? If so, what is it? Where is your red line? Or absent an alternative with fb's network effects, will you keep using their products regardless of the unseen costs you rack up?

I can't think of any concrete red-line that Facebook could cross. I've never been a techno-utopian, and the Snowden leaks were the catalyst that drove me to learn programming. I recall being in my early teens, when I went to create my (first) Facebook account. I mentioned it to my dad. He explicitly told me that whatever I did on Facebook would go to their servers, that whatever reached their servers was theirs, and…