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Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:41 PM UTC

kgwxd wrote: post #219

rdtsc wrote: post #173

This needs careful consideration if you ever decide to do it. Depending on the local criminal culture they could exact revenge. Then also know where you live and can do a lot worse things than taking a package. Police might later be involved but it might not be worth it. You are dealing with people who have no qualms stealing so it's not too crazy to expect other rash and illegal acts from them. I can also see some i…

Leave it on your enemies porch while they're away on vacation, then any revenge will be had on your enemy. Or your enemy opens the box.

> Leave it on your enemies porch while they're away on vacation

But hope your enemy doesn't have a porch camera...

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by TallGuyShort » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:42 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #689

agensaequivocum wrote: post #663

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would get a CCW if you don't already have one.

Except he’d be dead and the perp would have 2 guns. Why is the solution to more gun violence more guns?

What's your solution? More bans that aren't enforced effectively?

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by konschubert » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:43 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

The solution is to make sure that the police starts giving a damn.

Why are they allowed to have a policy like this? They should be properly funded and staffed, and then they should start doing their damn homework.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by weberc2 » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:44 PM UTC

JabavuAdams wrote: post #608

weberc2 wrote: post #67

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I just could not have less sympathy for a thief who injurs himself while stealing. It's bizarre that we live in a world where this is controversial.

It's not bizarre. There's a concept of proportionality. Also of latent cruelty. I don't want someone to steal my packages, but I would feel bad if they were blinded or maimed stealing something that ultimately I can afford to lose. People > Property. EDIT> I think part of why the glitter fart bomb works so well is that it has a sense of humour, and that the designer doesn't come off as cruel.

There’s also a sense of justice and personal responsibility. It’s not hard not to steal, and thieves shouldn’t expect safety. Anyway, compassion is a privilege, not a right.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by eric_h » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:44 PM UTC

rtkwe wrote: post #297

jayess wrote: post #30

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> Yes but that's because the security footage didn't provide any actual information on the thief. No, as he stated in the video, the police said it just wasn't worth their time.

That was for the first one though, where all he had was a random persons face, way harder to actually track that person down. For the later ones like the car and even more so the apartment/house it's a much easier case so they might have actually bothered because they can directly link the theft to an actual ID through the plates/address. Even with that the chances they'd bother is medium to low but it's much more li…

But is it there actually a crime in this case if the owner intended for the package to be stolen (of which there is also video evidence)?

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by peterangular » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:44 PM UTC

move-on-by wrote: post #541

peterangular wrote: post #441

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This isn't something new... After having property stolen a few times in the US it's apparent that the police are not there to assist with petty crime _at all_. Even when there's video footage/evidence to be reviewed they can't/won't be bothered and will likely just send a LEO out to fill out a police report for the formalities. The police are a business and if there's not money to be had (traffic citations, parking t…

I don't want to agree with you. But I'm also reminded of the policy to seize cash without pressing charges. [1] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessi...

Yep!

If you look into civil forfeiture it's a racket... and directly infringes on our rights. Even in cases where there is NO wrongdoing you usually have to go through lengthy processes in order to get your property back, and even then you're considered lucky to get the majority of it back (if at all).

Effectively you are guilty until proven innocent with stuff like this on the books. I just find it funny that the same people who yell about "freedom" and "liberty" in this country are the ones who glorify the police as if they can do no wrong.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by Sabinus » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:45 PM UTC

TallGuyShort wrote: post #702

yardie wrote: post #689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except he’d be dead and the perp would have 2 guns. Why is the solution to more gun violence more guns?

What's your solution? More bans that aren't enforced effectively?

Every other country seems to manage it.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by archon810 » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:45 PM UTC

tivert wrote: post #256

If you're concerned about package thieves, just buy an outdoor cabinet and put it next to your door with a note asking that packages be placed in it. I use an Ikea Josef: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/storage-furniture/outdoo... You don't even need a lock for it. If you can get the deliverymen to consistently place packages in it, the thieves will have no idea if there's actually a package at your door to steal…

https://www.getboxlock.com

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by weberc2 » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:45 PM UTC

Guest10928391 wrote: post #532

weberc2 wrote: post #455

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We're not talking about liability when a trap injures an innocent person; of course the innocent person would not be held liable. When a trap injures a thief, the thief should be liable. I agree that traps are a bad idea because I don't trust most people to devise traps that don't harm innocents; however, this is markedly different than the argument that "when a trap hurts a thief, the thief bears no responsibility".…

I don't see this as a black and white situation where the thief should always be responsible for injuries they sustain. What happens if I setup a machine to fire baseballs at high speed when someone touches my fake parcel? Some teenager comes to steal my package, catches a baseball between the eyes and dies or ends up disabled for life. I'm in the clear because the kid was a thief? Now, I don't think a thief deserves…

I address all of this in the post you replied to. Not sure how to make it clearer...

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by TallGuyShort » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 11:47 PM UTC

Sabinus wrote: post #707

TallGuyShort wrote: post #702

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What's your solution? More bans that aren't enforced effectively?

Every other country seems to manage it.

Yeah I grew up in a country where it backfired royally, and now I concealed carry and stopped a murder-in-progress with it when the cops were still 10 minutes away, so y'all can fuck off with your statist ideas and cherry-picked examples for things that have no global correlation.