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WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Agreed. I didn't get passed the homepage. 1. Why not have an anonymous demo page to play around with before asking us to sign up? 2. Why not have a big "Log in with OpenID" button so people can just link in with Google/whatever?

We'll set up Facebook Connect for those that don't want to register directly. Reason we don't have anonymous demo page yet is that it would take significant work to get the data to port to your actual account if you choose to sign up. It'd be a bad thing for someone to spend 10 minutes entering data into the demo and then lose it on signing up. We actually had that before and it was a problem. We want to do this, but…

One compromise would be to have the instructions/intro entered into a demo page that people could interact with but not save - it would encourage exploration of the interface without encouraging/requiring people to enter their own info. TaskPaper for Mac does something like this in an appealing way, and has almost the same interface as WorkFlowy.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Same, and quickly realized I'll probably never return.

I thought about that, but given its potential for me I set it as my homepage. I'll give it a few days to see if it has money for me.

But this is because you saw it on HN and it's a YC company so you want to give it a chance.

Most people wouldn't care or even know what YC is.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Four testimonial quotes, a short fluffy video, and a sign up box? That's your launch website? You're kidding, right? Is it online only? Is it free? Forever or for a trial? ...

We'll put this stuff online and put more descriptive text. Thanks for the feedback. Conversions are really good, btw, so something's working.

Regarding your specific questions:

1) "Is it online only?" You can currently edit offline and when you go back online it'll sync your changes. Don't close your browser window, though, cause it'll lose the changes. That'll be fixed soon thanks to html 5 caching.

2 & 3) "Is it free?" & "Forever?" It's going to be like Dropbox, freemium with a quota. In other words, free forever up to a certain number of lists allowed. We'll grandfather in early users.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Woah. I get a very 37signals-esque feel from this. You know, the feeling when you've found something really awesome that could really help out your daily organization? I used to use backpack from 37signals, but ended up favoring my Moleskine.

I signed-up for WorkFlowy and created 5 lists and I think I could use this on a daily basis. Simple and to the point. Help me remember the random things that go through my head while keeping me on track to get things done.

That being said, there are a few things I'd love to see:

(a) Search (b) Linking between items. I keep daily lists that may have sub-tasks of items that are in a larger project list. I'd like to be able to link the things in my daily list back to the project. Even if this is a full URL, I just don't want to be clicking around to find it. (c) Mobile/iPad support (haven't tested to see if this already works or not)

Great job guys.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Interesting product idea - could use a bit more explanation on the homepage (maybe a paragraph of explanatory text?), the video was nice but a bit hard to take in (fast paced, talking over music, short). Your other video "How to use workflowy" was much easier to understand and actually convinced me to sign up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMVtkNrquU&fmt=18 . Specifically, the part after 1:30 where you show the len…

Thanks, thats really useful feedback. Nice to know the main thing that persuaded you. I wonder if we could capture that in images/text somehow too, for the people who keep saying they don't want to watch a video.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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I'd like more formatting options. (Bold, size, etc.) Also would like to be able to embed media somehow (videos, images, etc.) I'd like to use something like this as a good outlining tool. The expanding of bullets into new pages is great.

I worry that embedding media would just overcomplicate it. There's definitely a point where it's simple enough and adding more features will only detract from the overall effectiveness.

We had embeddable media implemented but took it out because the UI wasn't right yet. We need to figure that out, but I think it is definitely important enough to work on.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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I'd like more formatting options. (Bold, size, etc.) Also would like to be able to embed media somehow (videos, images, etc.) I'd like to use something like this as a good outlining tool. The expanding of bullets into new pages is great.

I worry that embedding media would just overcomplicate it. There's definitely a point where it's simple enough and adding more features will only detract from the overall effectiveness.

Agreed about overcomplicating it. I'd rather link to the media elsewhere to keep my information less cluttered and not worry about the formatting.

Re: WorkFlowy (YC S10) launches a better way to organize your brain

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Is this a good space to compete in? There are zillions of sites like it, it's really easy to duplicate, and hard to make money off of? Nevertheless, best of luck to you.

I don't mean to be cynical but honestly to me this space is an analog to self-help books. Todo/notes/productivity apps probably can hook people for a few weeks but beyond that I imagine most people won't put forth the effort to keep up with it.
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