Hate Speech on Patreon
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Hate Speech on Patreon
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#2I don't have any context for Patreon's move here. Does anyone know the back story? What the guy said sounds douchey, dimwitted and racist...
But here's another case for decentralization of monetization. I don't care whether someone says something offensive or not...if Bob wants to donate money to Alice, that's their right. They shouldn't have to go through Patreon or PayPal or any other centralized service. And Alice shouldn't have to fear getting on some PC movement's bad side.
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#3I find I change my language depending on my audience. Sargon was addressing the alt-right in an interview and using their own racist and sexist language against them, to insult them. It doesn't seem like he was attacking the black community or the gay community.
Re: Hate Speech on Patreon
#4I don't have any context for Patreon's move here. Does anyone know the back story? What the guy said sounds douchey, dimwitted and racist... But here's another case for decentralization of monetization. I don't care whether someone says something offensive or not...if Bob wants to donate money to Alice, that's their right. They shouldn't have to go through Patreon or PayPal or any other centralized service. And Alice…
He is an infamous provocateur. I'm pretty sure this is the real reason why he was banned:
https://www.polygon.com/features/2017/6/27/15880582/anita-sa...
Re: Hate Speech on Patreon
#5> Some people worry that we are reviewing content not posted on Patreon. As a funding platform, we don’t host much content, but we help fund creations across the internet. As a result, we review creations posted on other platforms that are funded through Patreon.
So if I want to get someone suspended, I dig through their history, find an instance where they used a word ten years ago that has now become "hate speech", create my own Patreon, and post their comments in my Patreon?
Re: Hate Speech on Patreon
#6I don't have any context for Patreon's move here. Does anyone know the back story? What the guy said sounds douchey, dimwitted and racist... But here's another case for decentralization of monetization. I don't care whether someone says something offensive or not...if Bob wants to donate money to Alice, that's their right. They shouldn't have to go through Patreon or PayPal or any other centralized service. And Alice…
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#7Man, I read some of the comments on that article it makes it seem like patreaon made a mistake. Although, it's just internet comments, but the fact patreaon has posted about it themselves makes me go hmm...
Not sure of the whole story, but when a company makes a response like that it screams damage control to me. The comments the article did highlight do seem pretty blunt, but for a company to respond openly like this makes it seem like there is more to it than I understand.
Re: Hate Speech on Patreon
#8> Some people worry that we are reviewing content not posted on Patreon. As a funding platform, we don’t host much content, but we help fund creations across the internet. As a result, we review creations posted on other platforms that are funded through Patreon. So if I want to get someone suspended, I dig through their history, find an instance where they used a word ten years ago that has now become "hate speech",…
Also in an interview a year ago [1], Patreon's CEO explicitely promised they would not do what they just did.
But in this case they are characterising as hate speech the simple use of slang, even when there is no hateful intention. This is just the political correctness ayatollahs becoming over-zealous, which I find hard to justify and certainly won't support with my money.
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#9I find I change my language depending on my audience. Sargon was addressing the alt-right in an interview and using their own racist and sexist language against them, to insult them. It doesn't seem like he was attacking the black community or the gay community.
I agree. I found the livestream that Patreon transcribed in the article[1]. From what I can tell, the context is that he is responding to an alt-right troll commenting in the chat.
He appears to be throwing the racially-charged language back at the troll and criticising them for being so disrespectful. From his mocking tone, I did not get the impression that he condoned their prejudice.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74llFWdeKNM&feature=youtu.be...
Re: Hate Speech on Patreon
#10I find I change my language depending on my audience. Sargon was addressing the alt-right in an interview and using their own racist and sexist language against them, to insult them. It doesn't seem like he was attacking the black community or the gay community.
I agree. I found the livestream that Patreon transcribed in the article[1]. From what I can tell, the context is that he is responding to an alt-right troll commenting in the chat. He appears to be throwing the racially-charged language back at the troll and criticising them for being so disrespectful. From his mocking tone, I did not get the impression that he condoned their prejudice. [1] https://www.youtube.com/wa…
> He appears to be throwing the racially-charged language back at the troll
He seems to be using the N word specifically as a pejorative because they're annoying him. (And then uses "faggot" also as a pejorative because why not?)
"White people are meant to be polite and respect each other", combined with the use of the N word towards the commentators, is fairly racially charged, no?