The biggest mistake we've ever made is not realising that Google used to be called.. SkyNet.
Just my two cents
Browsers
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Re: Browsers
#172How many billionaires have made their fortunes through the web? Surely some of them care enough about preventing a monoculture to foot the bill for an independent browser development team - if not for profit, for the greater good. Consider it philanthropy.
>an independent browser development team So Mozilla?
Well maybe another Mozilla? The point is the ecosystem needs variety and there are people who could afford to create that.
Re: Browsers
#173Google is another evil empire. Amen.
Re: Browsers
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
"For example, they may start integrating technologies for which they have exclusive, or at least 'special' access. Can you imagine if all of a sudden Google apps start performing better than anyone else's?" This is already happening. I very recently worked on the Edge team, and one of the reasons we decided to end EdgeHTML was because Google kept making changes to its sites that broke other browsers, and we couldn't…
I think it's interesting. Did you investigate why they added that div?
Many "irrational" decisions are related to interactions with anti-bot/anti-fraud logic.
I worked on IE in the days when there were many crazy conspiracy theories about silverlight and IE collaborating to ruin the open web. This sounds similar.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
The concern is not 'now' it's 'later'. Google is a business like any other - and when they have the power to lever a monopolized situation - they will. For example, they may start integrating technologies for which they have exclusive, or at least 'special' access. Can you imagine if all of a sudden Google apps start performing better than anyone else's? Or what if they integrate technology that de-facto collects usa…
"For example, they may start integrating technologies for which they have exclusive, or at least 'special' access. Can you imagine if all of a sudden Google apps start performing better than anyone else's?" This is already happening. I very recently worked on the Edge team, and one of the reasons we decided to end EdgeHTML was because Google kept making changes to its sites that broke other browsers, and we couldn't…
The best part of this anti-trust browser conspiracy is that it involves Microsoft — but now, as opposed to the IE dominance in the 00's, Microsoft is the victim.
So ironical. How's the taste of your own medicine? :)
Re: Browsers
#176oh look, another fear-mongering firefox ad masquerading as an article that actually warrants reading.
no thanks, I'll pass.
edit: I'll add that I am pretty tired of reading these "Microsoft Edge is dead, long live Firefox" articles like this, where they start with a title that sounds like it is worth reading and in the end it boils down to "Pleeeeeease use Firefox, its betterrrrrr, pleeeeeease!." They are opinion pieces and provide NOTHING of substance or value other than pandering to the current base of firefox users. They won't convince me to switch, and probably never will (in fact, they make me dislike firefox even more than I already do).
Re: Browsers
#177People don't download Chrome because EdgeHTML-Edge sucks; they download Chrome because it's familiar, and ironically doesn't nag the person to enable half a dozen Microsoft's services one by one. There's two greater truths here: that some people are more comfortable using Google's services over those of Microsoft, and that the power of defaults matter, even when they feel skeevy to a part of the population. Google pr…
As a counter-point, I've had to set up Chrome with ad blockers even for computer illiterate family members and friends because they eventually have it installed anyway. Why? Not because they knew they were installing it, but because every time you visit "google.com" in Edge, you get an intrusive message that says: "Switch to Chrome Hide annoying ads and protect against malware on the web [No Thanks] [Yes]" And that t…
I don't use Chrome, and can honestly say I don't remember the last time I saw one of these messages.
Granted, the browser i use is Blink-based. Probably has something to do with it, but it is still _not Chrome_.
Re: Browsers
#178There are several comments on this post wondering why a browser monoculture is bad or speculating that a browser engine monopoly is inevitable and ought to be accepted. Let's just replace 'browser' with OS (ironically the similarities are becoming more with each passing day) above... would we still say the same? Is an OS monoculture good, regardless of whether it is inevitable? Have we forgotten the power that MS had…
> Let's just replace 'browser' with OS (ironically the similarities are becoming more with each passing day) above... would we still say the same?
From what I've seen, yes absolutely, as long as it is Linux.
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#179There are several comments on this post wondering why a browser monoculture is bad or speculating that a browser engine monopoly is inevitable and ought to be accepted. Let's just replace 'browser' with OS (ironically the similarities are becoming more with each passing day) above... would we still say the same? Is an OS monoculture good, regardless of whether it is inevitable? Have we forgotten the power that MS had…
I'll echo tokyodude. Not a valid comparison in the least. The biggest differentiator I can see is that Windows is not, and probably never will be, open sourced. Chromium is.
I would place myself squarely in the camp of those that don't see every browser using Chromium under the hood as a bad thing. It makes every company that has their own browser invested in improving together, for one thing. Also, compatibility across browsers will only get better if that is the case, which is also something that people tell horror stories about from the time when IE was king.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
"For example, they may start integrating technologies for which they have exclusive, or at least 'special' access. Can you imagine if all of a sudden Google apps start performing better than anyone else's?" This is already happening. I very recently worked on the Edge team, and one of the reasons we decided to end EdgeHTML was because Google kept making changes to its sites that broke other browsers, and we couldn't…
The best part of this anti-trust browser conspiracy is that it involves Microsoft — but now, as opposed to the IE dominance in the 00's, Microsoft is the victim. So ironical. How's the taste of your own medicine? :)
> So ironical. How's the taste of your own medicine? :)
How is this productive?