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Re: Moral Machine

#3
I think these trolley problems are a waste of everybody's time. Building redundant reliable braking systems will be orders of magnitudes easier than creating a system to fairly and accurately assess who is the best set of people to kill in a disaster scenario.

Re: Moral Machine

#4
I remember seeing this last year. Issue I have with the choices is that it is missing an option: flip a coin.

On some of the questions, I find the options morally equivalent. So in these situations, if I were programming a solution, I would leave it up to chance and use a random number generator to decide the fate.

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#5
How about, if you are in the car that is going to kill people, you die first because you made the choice to get in the car, but the poor person on the sidewalk wasn't part of that choice?

I get throwing in animals and the car should not avoid animals and kill people. Heck, we have people who do that and end up killing more people just because of their poor judgement.

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#6

I think these trolley problems are a waste of everybody's time. Building redundant reliable braking systems will be orders of magnitudes easier than creating a system to fairly and accurately assess who is the best set of people to kill in a disaster scenario.

> I think these trolley problems are a waste of everybody's time.

I agree. It's an angle that the media love but has little real world applicability.

Re: Moral Machine

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post #6

I think these trolley problems are a waste of everybody's time. Building redundant reliable braking systems will be orders of magnitudes easier than creating a system to fairly and accurately assess who is the best set of people to kill in a disaster scenario.

> I think these trolley problems are a waste of everybody's time. I agree. It's an angle that the media love but has little real world applicability.

They’re such contrived scenarios. 99.9999999% of the time the correct response will be obvious, usually “maximum effort braking.”

Re: Moral Machine

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post #4

I remember seeing this last year. Issue I have with the choices is that it is missing an option: flip a coin. On some of the questions, I find the options morally equivalent. So in these situations, if I were programming a solution, I would leave it up to chance and use a random number generator to decide the fate.

I had the same feeling about this. On the questions I felt were exactly equivalent I tried to guess what most people would pick and picked the opposite to balance it out.

Re: Moral Machine

#9
These scenarios are idiotic. If you want to wank off about self driving car ethics, here is a much more realistic scenario: should all self-driving cars report their location to 911 dispatch to allow any vehicle to be re-purposed as an emergency vehicle at any time? That might actually save someone.

Also, can anyone identify a useful idea that philosophers have come up with in the last 50 years?

Re: Moral Machine

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post #4

I remember seeing this last year. Issue I have with the choices is that it is missing an option: flip a coin. On some of the questions, I find the options morally equivalent. So in these situations, if I were programming a solution, I would leave it up to chance and use a random number generator to decide the fate.

Why would you program a solution that has to kill people? If you are aware of specific situations, shouldn't you program a solution that completely avoids such situations and saves everyone?
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