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Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Consider not going on a modern airliner. Every commercial passenger jet since the A340 has been fly-by-wire. (military jets have been so longer).

737 Looks like cables, air, and hydraulics to me.

737 is a much older aircraft. The A320 and subsequent Airbus jets and Boeing jets since 777 have been electronic.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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And magnets repel with an inverse cube law. So there is no simple way to replace a spring with magnets. You could "linearise" an electromagnet with distance sensors and code, but that's a bit of a Franken-Solution - not least because any delay in the closed loop could make the system unstable. In this case a couple of minutes of research - or maybe asking a physicist - would have saved a lot of essentially rather poi…

You coukd linearize it using a meta-material of small magnets, though it would probably end up being a cylinder lined with magnets of varying density.

You can also linearize it by making the displacement small enough -- which is how Hooke's law actually works.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Loved the video. Didn't love the loud beep near the end, that's at about 3x the volume of the speaker the whole video...

YouTube desperately needs an audio compressor feature. Can't imagine why they haven't implemented that yet, it's more or less trivial.

I agree that they should, but it’s pretty reductionist and arrogant to call it “trivial”. There is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all dynamic compressor. You would also need a fairly sophisticated content detection system (don’t distort anything that is music, which is a huge use case on YouTube for example). Not to mention adding _any_ steps to their intake pipeline requires more processing power and data moving than you and I will ever touch in our lifetimes.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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I’ve often thought it might be interesting to replace the springs in a piano’s action with electromagnets so you could have control over the exact touch profile.

I don’t think pianos typically have any springs, everything is gravity powered with counterweights. The only springiness comes from striking the strings as far as I know. Only the really cheap electronic keyboards use springs. Even halfway decent electronic pianos still rely on counterweights.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Every link i’ve seen to this story annoys the hell out of me because they don’t explain HOW the elevator eventually stopped. That’s literally all I want to know.

I’d also like to know what they meant by “plunges”. How fast did it descend? Was it in free fall?

You can easily tell that it wasn't in free fall, because if it fell 84 floors in free fall and then stopped, the passengers would have died.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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They should try this with electromagnets, and make the curve linear using electronics (and perhaps find the optimum curve in terms of fun when jumping around).

Wouldn't that consume a lot of electricity?

Probably yes, but it would be an interesting experiment. By the way, they could use superconductor magnets :)

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Unsurprisingly, an inverse-square mechanism can't replace a linear one over a wide working range.

I wonder if there’s a Fourier transform equivalent that’d let you stack up various inverse square curves to appropriate a linear curve?

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Consider not going on a modern airliner. Every commercial passenger jet since the A340 has been fly-by-wire. (military jets have been so longer).

But you have more time to react on a plane and switch to manual override. It's not like people fly with just a few meters distance to other airplanes. There's also a good distance to the only other thing you can crash into, the ground, as opposed to driving between walls or with a cliff to one side.

OP said "fly by wire", meaning there's no non electronic systems to fall back on. If the electronics fail there's no "manual override".

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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About as scary as my Tesla on autopilot going around a curve at 75mph. Every time I ask myself, what if there is a bug or if it turns off...

Pretty much every critical system in a vanilla Toyota is already software-controlled, not to mention the legion of critical systems involved in air travel, elevators, medical equipment (e.g., pacemakers), etc. Not sure that this should bring comfort, but at least you need not be particularly frightened by your Tesla. :)

there's a huge complexity difference, however.
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