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Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

#21

TL;DR Yes but not very well. A spring made from magnets doesn't have a close to linear spring rate like a traditional coil spring does.

But is it linear, from the data? They had two datapoints and projected from that sparse data a regression line.

No, it's linear from basic physics.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is it linear, from the data? They had two datapoints and projected from that sparse data a regression line.

There are far more than two data points on all of the charts in the article. What chart are you looking at?

The youtube video mostly.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

#25

TL;DR Yes but not very well. A spring made from magnets doesn't have a close to linear spring rate like a traditional coil spring does.

But is it linear, from the data? They had two datapoints and projected from that sparse data a regression line.

Hook's law[1] states that the force of a spring scales linearly with the distance it is stretched.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooke%27s_law

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

#26

I’ve often thought it might be interesting to replace the springs in a piano’s action with electromagnets so you could have control over the exact touch profile.

I don't have a full text link, but definitely there's been some work done on at least the front end of this problem:

https://uwaterloo.ca/motion-research-group/publications/kine...

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

#27
post #6

Seems like electromagnets could help compensate for distance by drawing more current when far apart, and less when close together. A microcontroller could essentially make the force linear like a spring. Of course, then you need wires hooked up to your pogo, and that might be scary if the microcontroller has a bug (or somehow fails) since you are now essentially hopping onto a railgun.

About as scary as my Tesla on autopilot going around a curve at 75mph. Every time I ask myself, what if there is a bug or if it turns off...

The downside risk is never worth it for me. I'm always hands on, and curves I treat it like a drivers' ed situation: You better do the right thing.

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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post #6

Seems like electromagnets could help compensate for distance by drawing more current when far apart, and less when close together. A microcontroller could essentially make the force linear like a spring. Of course, then you need wires hooked up to your pogo, and that might be scary if the microcontroller has a bug (or somehow fails) since you are now essentially hopping onto a railgun.

About as scary as my Tesla on autopilot going around a curve at 75mph. Every time I ask myself, what if there is a bug or if it turns off...

Pretty much every critical system in a vanilla Toyota is already software-controlled, not to mention the legion of critical systems involved in air travel, elevators, medical equipment (e.g., pacemakers), etc. Not sure that this should bring comfort, but at least you need not be particularly frightened by your Tesla. :)

Re: Can Repelling Magnets Replace the Spring in a Pogo Stick?

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About as scary as my Tesla on autopilot going around a curve at 75mph. Every time I ask myself, what if there is a bug or if it turns off...

Pretty much every critical system in a vanilla Toyota is already software-controlled, not to mention the legion of critical systems involved in air travel, elevators, medical equipment (e.g., pacemakers), etc. Not sure that this should bring comfort, but at least you need not be particularly frightened by your Tesla. :)

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