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Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does."

I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that."

I remember being so ignorant to depression until I experienced it myself. It's unlike anything else. Your drive to persist is just missing.

P.S. the entire lecture series this one is from is worth watching.

Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does." I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I remember being so ignorant to depression until I exper…

That's my view of it as well. I distinctly remember both states of mind: not understanding and intimately understanding. I'm not sure there's a way to bridge the gap, the ignorance and incredulous attitude I had was unassailable.

I remember it with shame but I hold onto the memory so I never forget what it's like to not understand someone else's life or perspective.

Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does." I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I remember being so ignorant to depression until I exper…

Yep; but I think is also the fault of the educational system, like nobody told me when I was young that even the worst pain I have ever felt is not one percent of how bone cancer hurts, that I have never felt an amount of confusion that compares with schizophrenia or alzheimer, an amount of apathy and disdain that compares with clinical depression, and so on.

Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does." I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I remember being so ignorant to depression until I exper…

I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that."

I've been living with depression for almost two decades now. I took up running a few years ago and you're right, it did make me feel good. But there was no way for me to keep it up through the Waterloo winters with mountains of snow, disgusting brown slush, and deadly black ice.

So I stopped late in the fall and restarted in the spring. I tried to keep active during the winter with an exercise bike and a rowing machine, but it's not the same. Every time I got back to the spring it felt like I was starting over.

Now, just over a year ago, I started university (at Waterloo) and the enormous challenge and stress of the workload drove exercise out of my immediate priorities. With the stress I ate more and gained weight, and stressed more over school without the calming relief of exercise.

This past summer I tried taking up running again, after exams. I ended up breaking my ankle, which is not surprising given that I was so out of shape and trying to push myself too hard over a shorter window.

Now the depression is stronger than ever. I don't know how I'm going to finish my degree.

Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does." I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I remember being so ignorant to depression until I exper…

It's partly true, but there's also a "I suffered too and had to crush through life, why won't you ?"

Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does." I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I remember being so ignorant to depression until I exper…

I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I've been living with depression for almost two decades now. I took up running a few years ago and you're right, it did make me feel good. But there was no way for me to keep it up through the Waterloo winters with mountains of snow, disgusting brown slush, and deadly black…

I'm a UW grad and have the same story. Find my contact through my profile and shoot me an email if you'd like. Or try to reach out to on campus counselling services. They may very well have saved my life. and I have to say, things are very different and so much better now. It's amazing how much life can change in time.

Re: Depression

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From my amateur perspective, i think the history of how people treat others with depression may be deeply rooted in the Human flaw of, "the way I experience the sensations of existence must be how everyone else does." I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I remember being so ignorant to depression until I exper…

I can't exactly fault the default response to be, "I don't get it. Just get off your butt and go for a jog. I always feel better when I do that." I've been living with depression for almost two decades now. I took up running a few years ago and you're right, it did make me feel good. But there was no way for me to keep it up through the Waterloo winters with mountains of snow, disgusting brown slush, and deadly black…

Have you tried lifting weights, get a couple of kettlebells, watch some youtube videos, most are HIIT routines, they give you both a cardio/weight training workout. 20 mins all it takes, when I can't get to the gym, that's my go to.

Re: Depression

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This is fascinating. I didn't realized the scientists had developed such a detailed understanding of depression.

Knowing the way we are made is depressing. Too many moving parts, too much complexity, too much uncertainty, too many things can (and do) go wrong. And there's not much we can do about it. At the same time, it is quite amazing that we are sturdy enough not to fall apart the moment we are born but instead last for many years.
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