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Re: Google One

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Post by microdrum » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:23 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #313

arbitrage wrote: post #304

Hey Google ... I know you're here, looking for how this is going to go over. It seems like a nice idea. I'm not on board with any new Google platform unless I have some sort of assurance that you're just not going to kill this off in two years, or let it suffer a slow death of neglect and attrition. Thanks, but you need to grow up a bit, Google.

This isn't some side project like Wave that they'll cut off. It sounds like a pretty core business. If anything it will get renamed and take on a different form in a couple yrs, but I doubt they'd ever stop offering a cloud service like Drive. But still, this is a very valid point. It's hard to trust any Google service and it's risky to make any significant investment of time structuring your life around them. This i…

I wouldn't be so sure that they won't cut it off.

For example, they have already removed the marketing page that people here are making fun of: https://imgur.com/a/xsF1ZX3

Re: Google One

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Post by woolvalley » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:24 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #313

arbitrage wrote: post #304

Hey Google ... I know you're here, looking for how this is going to go over. It seems like a nice idea. I'm not on board with any new Google platform unless I have some sort of assurance that you're just not going to kill this off in two years, or let it suffer a slow death of neglect and attrition. Thanks, but you need to grow up a bit, Google.

This isn't some side project like Wave that they'll cut off. It sounds like a pretty core business. If anything it will get renamed and take on a different form in a couple yrs, but I doubt they'd ever stop offering a cloud service like Drive. But still, this is a very valid point. It's hard to trust any Google service and it's risky to make any significant investment of time structuring your life around them. This i…

I've had pretty good luck with apps like songshift to migrate between services. It's never %100, but pretty decent.

Re: Google One

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Post by OafTobark » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:29 PM UTC

roland35 wrote: post #263

I have paying for Google Drive/One for a year now and having tried Dropbox and Amazon Cloud, GDrive is the easiest for my family. It is seamless for us to back up all camera and phone pictures from both Android and iOS and is much faster and less buggy than Amazon. I do agree with people's reservations about privacy and longevity with Google, their products don't seem to last for long!

Google One hasn't been around for close to a year yet so I assume you were using Google Drive specifically before Google One was officially released? My experience was the opposite of this and because of this experience, I refuse to pay for any Google services moving forward.

Re: Google One

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Post by twblalock » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:29 PM UTC

rdsubhas wrote: post #235

projectramo wrote: post #167

Easy with the criticism folks. This is just the first version. All the confusion will disappear with Google One 2.0

You mean Google Two. Or maybe one Google One will be deprecated in favor of two Google Twos.

All three will come preinstalled with Android phones at the same time.

Re: Google One

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Post by timdellinger » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:35 PM UTC

Some of the scariest words that occur when a radical new product is launched are telling current customers of existing products "you'll be automatically upgraded".

Re: Google One

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Post by bassman9000 » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:46 PM UTC

dwild wrote: post #295

zwaps wrote: post #156

There is no special privacy policy, in other words, if you upload your "whole life" to there, as they suggest, then your whole life is owned by Google and they can do whatever they want with that data, as you signed over all the rights. I mean, I use online storage for my family pictures, my important documents etc. etc, and so the minimum requirement is that it is encrypted and the company contractually agrees not t…

Encrypt your data yourself and don't trust any cloud provider to do it for you. You can only trust yourself.

That's the complain: they could do it, and be liable for it, if they wanted, and still be profitable.

Re: Google One

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Post by dta5003 » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:50 PM UTC

tmoravec wrote: post #77

floatingatoll wrote: post #3

Their support site is far more valuable than the landing page. From the main support index at https://support.google.com/googleone/ here are various tidbits of useful content that the surrounding HN comments wished for (sorry, none describe the "expert help" available): "Get Google One": https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9004013 > With Google One, you get more storage, help from experts, and extra member be…

How on Earth are hotel discounts related to cloud storage?

It doesn't even include a messaging platform!

Re: Google One

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:53 PM UTC

kyrra wrote: post #264

malux85 wrote: post #123

Consolidation of the services is nice, but I feel like this is just getting creepier and creepier. It’s like “put your entire digital existence onto our platform” Oh and by the way took “don’t be evil” out. Now give us all of your data, look at this beautiful UI! Sorry Google, I don’t trust you anymore, I used to love you, it used to be about the ideals and ideas, but now avarice has possessed and consumed you. No th…

To quote Google's code of conduct as it exists today: > And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up! https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ Media headlines from the time gave the impression that it was removed, which was absolutely false.

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Re: Google One

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Post by tremblane » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 5:59 PM UTC

tfeldmann wrote: post #176

projectramo wrote: post #167

Easy with the criticism folks. This is just the first version. All the confusion will disappear with Google One 2.0

I'll wait for Google One 2.3

Is that the release where it's specialized for certain groups? Like, "Google One 2.3 for businesses"

Re: Google One

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Post by throwaway98434 » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 6:10 PM UTC

sangnoir wrote: post #322

throwaway98434 wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My employer uses gsuite and managing google cookies in a multi-login scenario is sufficiently annoying that I simply avoid using google services altogether.

Try using a browser that can better isolate your work account from your personal account. I recommend the latest firefox with site containers, but you could also use Chrome/Chromium and add a seperate profile for work (top right user icon > Manage people > Add person). This way, you will have separate windows for work/personal stuff with isolated histories and bookmarks.

I would go in that direction if I needed to but so far I simply haven't needed any google services that require a login.

I've read some horror stories about google pulling the plug on all accounts due to a billing conflict somewhere else in their ecosystem. That, together with the absolute PITA of managing multiple accounts pretty much ensures I will avoid ever paying to put my data in their hands.