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Re: Google One

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Post by swebs » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:44 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #140

kowdermeister wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of Windows users probably know about OneDrive ( https://onedrive.live.com/ ) since this is a similar service, I totally understand the naming choice here.

Ironically OneDrive used to be SkyDrive until Sky sued them. I guess everyone's switching to numbers because words are all trademarked, apart from the phoneme strings generated by the pharma industry.

They should follow the smartphone industry and just use arbitrary algebra expressions. I'm enjoying my OnePlus 5T solve when T = 3.

Re: Google One

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Post by will_brown » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:45 PM UTC

nicoburns wrote: post #205

jm547ster wrote: post #181

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Strange analogy, surely it would have to be ripping off a product called ‘Microsoft One’

I mean, microsoft's storage solution is called onedrive. That's pretty damn similar.

Yes they own more than a few trademarks for One in the space. MS OneNote, One guide.

But hey Googlers are gonna downvote when Google spends millions of branding/marketing a new product only to be called on copying MS of all companies.

Re: Google One

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Post by mtgx » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:46 PM UTC

IgorPartola wrote: post #222

Is Google just a prepetual exercise in branding? They create a slightly different product, get it to popularity, kill it, announce a new brand to replace it, rinse, repeat.

How else would the people proposing and working on these things internally get promotions?

Re: Google One

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Post by whalesalad » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:48 PM UTC

Language wise this sounds like the Trojan horse that eventually becomes their amazon prime as far as being a “one stop” membership. It’s disguised as storage right now but seeing the bit about hotel deals... also prime ~ one... hmm.

Why this wouldn’t also bundle things like YouTube red or google music proves my hypothesis wrong though.

I just don’t know what the hell is going on at Google lately. What is their strategy? What is their vision? Everything they do is so disjointed and incongruent.

Re: Google One

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Post by rdsubhas » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:48 PM UTC

projectramo wrote: post #167

Easy with the criticism folks. This is just the first version. All the confusion will disappear with Google One 2.0

You mean Google Two.

Or maybe one Google One will be deprecated in favor of two Google Twos.

Re: Google One

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Post by gedy » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:49 PM UTC

falcor84 wrote: post #228

And yet again they don't care about gsuite users. I have a gsuite setup for everyone in the family, for pretty much exactly the same needs that are addressed by Google One, but apparently there's absolutely no way to get the benefits of both.

I'm confident that's company politics and bonuses for launching the "new" at play here.

Re: Google One

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Post by elagost » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:52 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #214

I have a fair amount of stuff on Google drive and I would have liked to consolidate there, but the lack of a Linux client was a deal breaker, so I'm stuck with Dropbox. Not that Dropbox is bad. It would be nice to have things in one place only, but maybe it's better to not be completely dependent on one service.

Dropbox now only (officially) supports un-encrypted bare ext4 filesystems. If you plan on using XFS, BTRFS, or even encrypted ext4, you're SOL with Dropbox. https://itsfoss.com/dropbox-linux-ext4-only/ NextCloud and a $5/mo VPS work great for me.

Re: Google One

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Post by skybrian » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:55 PM UTC

Rjevski wrote: post #206

nwellnhof wrote: post #170

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They could win privacy-conscious users back by offering an ad and tracking free Google experience with the paid plans.

Would anyone trust them to not silently still collect personal data? For example, even if they don't need the data now because you're paying not to see ads, they might still collect it so that they can show you "better" ads if/when you stop paying.

I don't really get why people assume they're chaotic evil rather than lawful evil. This is a large company with lots of lawyers. Modulo bugs, they're going to make sure anything they do is covered by the privacy policy rather than leave an opening to be sued.

So the answer is that I would trust that it (mostly) doesn't happen if the legal terms say it won't.

Re: Google One

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Post by ilikehurdles » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:55 PM UTC

Can someone explain to me why google really wants me to move my photos out of Drive and into Google Photos? What’s in it for them?

Re: Google One

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Post by will_brown » Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 1:56 PM UTC

toupeetape wrote: post #207

will_brown wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it’s not an analogy. It’s just stealing a product name from a competitor, it really doesn’t matter if the products aren’t in the same space. If Google created Google Windows and the product wasn’t an OS, it’s still a rip off right? It’s one thing when it’s Apple/google maps because it’s a generic and descriptive mark, but One? Should have just gone full stop Google Windows.

If we are going down this road, Microsoft copied HTC, who not only had a product called "One" but also ones called "One S" and "One X" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_One_S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_One_X

Ok...I’m no MS fanboy.

But MS OneNote was released right around the same time.

But let’s be serious Google spent millions to brand/launch this, and it’s got to be embarrassing that either: a. None of the yesmen thought to speak up and say hey should we really use a name MS uses for a bunch of their products (One Note, Xbox One, One OS, One Guide); or b. Straight ripped it.