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Saudi Arabia Quietly Pumps Up Its Stock Market

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Re: Saudi Arabia Quietly Pumps Up Its Stock Market

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Good. Injustice should be really, really expensive in the 21st century. I hope the bill just keeps getting bigger for them.

Nah - They're only putting money into their own pockets by doing this. Look at it this way - you own 75% (a guess - but prob not far off) of a couple $trillion market. If you take some of your idle cash ($1billions) to pump the stock up - even if you "lose" that cash - but manage to stabilize the market - you're still doing pretty well for yourself...

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I don't understand why Kashoggi is brought up so much more frequently compared to what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen.

A NY Times journalist explains why some wars are less covered in the US (by comparing Syria coverage to Yemen coverage in the US): "Conflicts gain sustained American attention only when they provide a compelling story line that appeals to both the public and political actors, and for reasons beyond the human toll. That often requires some combination of immediate relevance to American interests, resonance with Americ…

Chomsky has a less charitable explanation in his book “manufacturing consent”

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Exactly. The fact that 1) he has a face we can identify with, and 2) they lured him into an official establishment of their government and then killed him in cold blood. A place where you might otherwise expect the rule of law to prevail.

Saudi laws aren't even codified. There isn't really a rule of law there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_system_of_Saudi_Arabia

Yeah I understand that, what I mean is that from our perspective a person should be able to walk into a government office and be safe from extra-judicial sanctions. So a Saudi national may not feel that safe themselves, but it is harder for someone from a Western-style liberal democracy to intuitively understand and is therefore horrifying.

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> We need to highlight to the world that Saudi investment is good That is, of course, if you're ok with some people being lured into an embassy and cut up into little pieces.

I don't understand why Kashoggi is brought up so much more frequently compared to what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen.

Well, one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.

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I have no problem paying for good journalism, but it's the equivalent of posting a link to a book or a paywalled research article on HN. Useless to anyone that doesn't buy it or have a subscription.

Regarding downvotes for an opinion you disagree with: instead of taking the opportunity to present an argument that would change my mind on the issue, you’d rather that I continue flagging all WSJ articles and feel bad about being downvoted.

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https://outline.com/rCAanC

An alternative is to put the word full before wsj in the URL. It opens a redirect page from Facebook, and effectively bypasses the paywall. https://www.fullwsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-pumps-up-stock...

Thanks a lot for the trick.

Re: Saudi Arabia Quietly Pumps Up Its Stock Market

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> We need to highlight to the world that Saudi investment is good That is, of course, if you're ok with some people being lured into an embassy and cut up into little pieces.

Should US companies refuse Chinese investment? Should we stop buying oil from Venezuela? Are you for the Cuban embargo (Cuban intelligence agencies have propped up repressive regimes, like Venezuela, throughout Latin America)? Should Apple stop doing business with Chinese suppliers? What Saudi Arabia did is BAD. Very bad. But I don't understand the singular obsession with it as a call to action, compared to the above…

Um… Yes? Ever heard of sanctions and boycotts?

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Oh come on. When does circumventing of paywall become stealing?

Reading proprietary content behind a paywall for free isn't stealing? What else could it possibly be? How about "circumventing" the ticket window at your local movie theater by walking in the exit door. I mean, they are showing the movie anyway, and there are empty seats...

Little bit late to answer, but it's a bit different situation with this exact paywall. It's movie theater that give everyone access for free, but randomly decide not to provide these access based on where you come from.

So using 3rd-party website to access their content is not any different that accessing the site through Facebook redirect for instance since in both cases you get content for free.

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