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Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

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Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tontine

Anyone else get acquainted with tontine from the simpsons? I watched that episode as a kid and still remember it to this day.

I learned about them from a MASH episode in which Colonel Potter was the last surviving member of a WW1 tontine.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

#72

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tontine

There's a short term group loaning 'game' in Cambodia called and based on Tontine, which I would guess comes from the French influence. The game is played by groups who agree on a monthly stake. Each month players offer an interest rate they're willing to pay (more like a tax), the highest rate is awarded the collective pot, less the interest which is redistributed to the other 'living' players. Players who have alre…

Also in Thailand and Laos. These games are hugely popular. Called a "share" in Thailand and "houay" in Laos.

It's some basic banking services for the unbanked in essence.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

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I've done over 900 jumps so I can fill you in, no references ATM because I'm on my phone. If you jump with a parachute, you will see chance of death go from 0% at zero feet, to approximately 100% at 35 feet. From there, it will remain near 100% until you reach about 600 feet, which is about the minimum distance it takes a parachute to open. Above 1000 feet and chance of death floors out near 0%

Will jumping from high enough without a parachute ever decrease the odds of death than they the odds of death at a lower altitude?

If you're far enough away you'll suffocate before reaching the ground.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

#74

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> Strangely, cats that fall from a height under 6 stories have more severe trauma than those that fall from over 6 stories. So, the theory is, if a cat falls from a height above 6 stories they either have less severe injuries or are just dead so the owner just doesn't bring them to the vet?

>>6 stories they either have less severe injuries or are just dead so the owner just doesn't bring them to the vet I would guess that at that height something must've broken the fall such that the cat suffered almost no injuries. I really don't see how the cat would survive the fall otherwise.

Cats are much smaller than humans and better prepared to absorb impact after "floating" to ground. I assume breaking the fall would actually be dangerous to cats because it disturbs their approach.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

#75

A coworker of mine once made this proposal. 5 of us would start a company. The company would buy key man insurance for everyone, then go on a company team building trip. On this trip, we'd all skydive, but one of the 5 parachutes would be non-functional...Profit! This coworker of mine soon after left the company by storming out of the meeting room and slamming the door, then took up playing online poker for a living.

I guess that was around 2005? What does he do now?

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

#76
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This title has been editorialized from "Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft: randomized controlled trial" to "Parachutes prevent death when jumping from aircraft: randomized controlled trial"

I believe that's an extremely subtle meta-joke on how popularizations of clinical trials always manage to mis-state what can actually be concluded from the trial. If so, well done. If that wasn't an intentional joke, even better.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

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post #72

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There's a short term group loaning 'game' in Cambodia called and based on Tontine, which I would guess comes from the French influence. The game is played by groups who agree on a monthly stake. Each month players offer an interest rate they're willing to pay (more like a tax), the highest rate is awarded the collective pot, less the interest which is redistributed to the other 'living' players. Players who have alre…

Also in Thailand and Laos. These games are hugely popular. Called a "share" in Thailand and "houay" in Laos. It's some basic banking services for the unbanked in essence.

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Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

#78

Would you indicate this is a satirical article? Half the time I was looking for jump height or understanding if adding parachutes to commercial aircraft that suddenly experienced breakage such as a missile would improve passenger survival.

Anecdotally I find the slow realization that something is satire to be an integral part of it's entertainment value.

That was, after all, how something like A Modest Proposal was structured. You were supposed to believe the author was serious at first. That's an important element to a lot of satire.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

#79

Would you indicate this is a satirical article? Half the time I was looking for jump height or understanding if adding parachutes to commercial aircraft that suddenly experienced breakage such as a missile would improve passenger survival.

Jump height is even in the abstract. You have to read it though, skimming won't work.

Re: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft

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I've done over 900 jumps so I can fill you in, no references ATM because I'm on my phone. If you jump with a parachute, you will see chance of death go from 0% at zero feet, to approximately 100% at 35 feet. From there, it will remain near 100% until you reach about 600 feet, which is about the minimum distance it takes a parachute to open. Above 1000 feet and chance of death floors out near 0%

”approximately 100% at 35 feet” Not sure about that. Although chance of death would be significant, there are many cases of people surviving falls from greater heights.

99.9% is approximately 100% ;) But yeah, that's a number I just pulled out of...thin air.
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