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Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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While 3% is a good deal, there have been internet-only banks for quite some time now, all of whom look pretty much like this. Radius and Axos are two examples that have been around for a while.

Axos: Up to 1.25% APY. No maintenance fees. No non-sufficient fund fees. No minimum balance requirements.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#122

Maybe I'm doing it wrong but the "no foreign transaction fees" is just as exciting. Using my BofA card on trips always results in a welcome home set of charges I could do without.

Charles Schwab checking account has offered free ATM withdrawal worldwide for a long time.

Happy Charles Schwab customer of over 10 years here. I've never once paid a fee on my checking account. Heck, one time I forgot about a one-time bill that caused me to overdraft (first overdraft since around 2005). Instead of charging me the overdraft fee, they sent me an email asking me to make sure the money was in the account by Monday (email received on Thursday) and there would be no fees charged.

I'll be staying a Schwab customer.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#123
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there is basically no competition. Plenty of credit unions around my area offer 3% or sometimes 4% checking, but the best bank rate I could find was under 1%. But credit unions and especially new small players like Robinhood aren't going to threaten PNC or BoA or Chase. So why would they give up free money if they don't have to?

Which credit union offers 4% on all money with them? I know of a few CUs that will offer much higher interest on the first X dollars. Ex: inspiruscu.org

There is usually a cap on those high interest rates - at my CU, its $25k. They pay 2% though, not 4% - it used to be a pretty good deal, but these days its easy to get a money market fund elsewhere that pays more than that with no maximum.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like both FDIC and SIPC have a 250K protection, are there any other differences between the two that would matter to an average consumer?

Maybe: > SIPC insurance provides protection for your cash balance and securities holdings if Robinhood fails financially, but does not cover investment losses due to declines in the value of securities themselves . Emphasis mine. If you put $250,000 into an FDIC-protected checking account, that account holds cash and FDIC protects the full amount of that cash. If you put $250,000 in an SIPC-protected brokerage accoun…

I think that just keeps people from making claims against the stocks they bought going down in price. A checking account holding dollars isn't going to lose protection because Robinhood the company invested in some stocks.

Aside from that, it appears they're investing this money in short-term treasuries rather than stocks, making up the difference in merchant fees for debit card transactions, and maybe treating this as a loss leader. They've partnered with Sutton Bank since they don't have their own banking license.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffkauflin/2018/12/13/in-a-bol...

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#126
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this mean it's not smart to store more than 250k in robinhood? (I don't, just wondering)

Brokerages love fat cats and most provide free high quality additional insurance up to at least 5-10M. What happens if brokerage fails? My bet is its insurance, reinsurance or gov't would bail investors out (ask Lehman clients many of whom had accounts a LOT bigger than 250k). My guess is that it is safe to keep at least 5M in a single brokerage, but decide for yourself.

Many Lehman clients got pennies on the dollar..

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#127
post #119

For folks trying to understand this, some context which may be useful: Checking accounts are loss leaders virtually everywhere, the exception being smaller community banks. Their primary revenue stream was, once upon a time, net interest income, but these days due to the extremely low interest environment and alternate sources of funding the revenue stream is more weighted towards fees (primarily NSFs, although that…

Just to add a 3rd question to balance the other two: "Are financial firms able to change the way they've operated for decades (centuries?) easily?"

my experience with this is that its not whether they are able to - but the cost benefit of abandoning legacy service lines that are still hugely profitable but maybe not be growing (or actually shrinking)

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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For all the folks suggesting that this is funded by selling your data: is there reason to expect that other banks with lower rates aren’t also selling your data? They may be less technically apt, but banks aren’t usually ones to leave money on the table.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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post #119

For folks trying to understand this, some context which may be useful: Checking accounts are loss leaders virtually everywhere, the exception being smaller community banks. Their primary revenue stream was, once upon a time, net interest income, but these days due to the extremely low interest environment and alternate sources of funding the revenue stream is more weighted towards fees (primarily NSFs, although that…

Just to add a 3rd question to balance the other two: "Are financial firms able to change the way they've operated for decades (centuries?) easily?"

Your question seems to be implying that you believe financial firms are more stupid than greedy. In contrast to Hanlon's razor, I think it's usually fair to assume greed over stupidity.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

That's pretty standard for a lot of these new-tech-wave style brokerage psuedo-banks. Betterment, Wealthfront, etc which also have a form of savings accounts (don't believe they offer checking accounts like rh is doing here) are SIPC only as well.

Wealthfront doesn’t offer a “savings” account.

Betterment has their Smart Saver[1], which offers a 2.09% rate and attempts to position it as vastly better than FDIC-insured accounts by comparing to some terrible “national average” instead of the ~2% rates that Ally, Capital One & others offer. It’s still an investment account with the risk, tax implications & liquidity challenges that such an account has.

Their misleading marketing around this is driving me away from them.

[1]: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.betterment.com/resources/sh...

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