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Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

Is it possible, that Robinhood is using high interest rate checking accounts not to make any money directly from them, but to encourage people to keep all their spare money one-click away from its investment products? In that case, checking accounts become just a business cost to Robinhood.

I feel likr thats implied

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#92
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I’m not sure why other banks haven’t followed. One month treasury rate is already up to 2.3% now and banks can certainly lend it out at higher than treasury rate.

Because there is basically no competition. Plenty of credit unions around my area offer 3% or sometimes 4% checking, but the best bank rate I could find was under 1%. But credit unions and especially new small players like Robinhood aren't going to threaten PNC or BoA or Chase. So why would they give up free money if they don't have to?

Which credit union offers 4% on all money with them? I know of a few CUs that will offer much higher interest on the first X dollars. Ex: inspiruscu.org

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#93

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

It looks like both FDIC and SIPC have a 250K protection, are there any other differences between the two that would matter to an average consumer?

SIPC covers 500k in (non-exempt) assets with a max of 250k of those assets as cash.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopping you from opening up similar accounts with other banks?

Most banks that will give you a current account will want to see £xxxx deposited every month (e.g, your salary) to earn any interest (if they even offer interest, it's rare on a current account). I could open multiple, but then every month I'd need to spend time transfering money to each to earn the interest. Im not sure that would even count towards deposited every month, they might want to see a direct debit that i…

> Im not sure that would even count towards deposited every month, they might want to see a direct debit that is actually a salary. I'm not sure.

For what it's worth, here in Australia they have similar offers. At one bank, I said I wasn't interested because of the regular 'salary' deposit requirement, and that bank offered to set me up with two accounts and a regular automated transfer between them to meet the minimum monthly deposit requirement. Though honestly, the fact they offered to do that concerned me even more.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#95

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

It looks like both FDIC and SIPC have a 250K protection, are there any other differences between the two that would matter to an average consumer?

Maybe:

> SIPC insurance provides protection for your cash balance and securities holdings if Robinhood fails financially, but does not cover investment losses due to declines in the value of securities themselves.

Emphasis mine.

If you put $250,000 into an FDIC-protected checking account, that account holds cash and FDIC protects the full amount of that cash.

If you put $250,000 in an SIPC-protected brokerage account, that account holds both cash and securities, and SIPC does not protect you from a decline in the market value of those securities. So imagine the stock market drops and you go to your "checking account" and that has dropped too! To me, the concept of such a "checking account" violates my basic assumptions of how I think about my cash holdings vs. my security holdings.

I don't know how that percentage of cash/securities breaks down at Robinhood, but it's not going to be 100% cash and 0% securities. There is a reason big banks don't offer checking accounts with 3% interest rates. When the return is higher, the risk must have gone up too, somehow.

It also seems like there could be weird tax implications if your "checking account" has to liquidate securities to cover a big check you wrote.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like both FDIC and SIPC have a 250K protection, are there any other differences between the two that would matter to an average consumer?

Does this mean it's not smart to store more than 250k in robinhood? (I don't, just wondering)

Brokerages love fat cats and most provide free high quality additional insurance up to at least 5-10M. What happens if brokerage fails? My bet is its insurance, reinsurance or gov't would bail investors out (ask Lehman clients many of whom had accounts a LOT bigger than 250k). My guess is that it is safe to keep at least 5M in a single brokerage, but decide for yourself.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#97

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

It looks like both FDIC and SIPC have a 250K protection, are there any other differences between the two that would matter to an average consumer?

Banks who petition the Fed for FDIC insurance face much stricter reporting rules, capital reserve requirements, and limits on the riskiness investments they can make with client deposits from FINRA and the SEC. If you wanted, you could view the lack of FDIC insurance as a sign of a riskier institution overall, but like any other investment it might be worth it for the higher rate.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#98
post #55

Anyone know of similar (short term) rates over here in Europe? Gotta be lucky to snatch up 1% for the first 6 months after signing up...

Also looking for something similar to Robinhood in Europe

FreeTrade in UK is mostly the same. By the way, the transaction is not always free: it is only free of commission if the operation is delayed until 4 PM (when all batched operations of multiple customers are processed).
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