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Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#81

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

Is it possible, that Robinhood is using high interest rate checking accounts not to make any money directly from them, but to encourage people to keep all their spare money one-click away from its investment products? In that case, checking accounts become just a business cost to Robinhood.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#82
post #26

Link to their blog post instead - https://blog.robinhood.com/news/2018/12/13/introducing-robin...

>With Robinhood, you’ll earn 3% on your money in both Checking & Savings, and interest compounds and is paid out daily. That’s an extra $240 a year for the average American household with $8,000 in the bank Does not compute. If it compounds daily then yearly total is above 3%

It's standard to talk in annualized interest rates to make simple comparisons between accounts. A daily interest rate of 0.008 % will compound up to just over 3 % of effective annual rate.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#83

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

It looks like both FDIC and SIPC have a 250K protection, are there any other differences between the two that would matter to an average consumer?

IANAL, but I doubt FDIC vs SIPC matters for an average consumer. If either fails it would almost certainly cause a major run on banks and/or a systemic money transfers failure. Thus it is much cheaper for the gov't to print more money than suffer such consequences.

And if the gov't really wanted to weasel out of FDIC there are plenty of loopholes. For example, I think FDIC can take a long time (up to 10 years?) to pay and is not adjusted for inflation, so inflate, wait and pay pre-inflate amounts is an option (stupid, but technically possible).

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#84
post #14

As a user of the Robinhood brokerage for all of my "fun investment money" I'm a fan of this. I do wonder how the big banks are going to respond however as this is blatantly a "shots fired" kind of event.

Oddly enough I suspect the result will be lobbying for stricter financial privacy regulations. Almost half of Robinhood's revenue is from selling data.[1] Big banks won't be able to compete on that front and most of the big players don't participate/make enough money on order flow sales that they'd miss it if it were prohibited. So the banks will do what they do best: lobby congress & regulators to legislate & regulate their competition away. Though in this case, I would argue that's in the best interest of the consumer.

[1]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-15/robinhood...

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#85

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

Why does this distinction matter if that coverage amount for cash is the same for both FDIC and SIPC?

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#86
post #5

I’m not sure why other banks haven’t followed. One month treasury rate is already up to 2.3% now and banks can certainly lend it out at higher than treasury rate.

I'm by no means an expert in this, but here's my rough understanding. Banks don't really touch the money in your consumer savings account. It's just used to expand their reserve. As a result, your money can only grow at the Fed fund rate. This is the interest rate of what a bank would get from lending money overnight and is targeted at 2-2.25% right now. The highest interest rate a bank can support without operating at a loss is about 2%, which is what most online-only banks like Marcus and Ally offer.

Basically, Robinhood is subsidizing this 3% interest rate with investor dollars. Of course, there having a higher reserve lets banks lend out more money, but I'm not sure that's worth paying a 1% premium over.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#87

Will the 3% be a long term thing or is it just a sign up gimmick?

Most banks in Europe do similar promos, but promo rates are 10x-100x lower, and normal rates rarely exceed 0.1% on saving accounts. Promo rates do typically last 3-6 Months and only for new customers.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

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post #75
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be some companies really wanting to know what high rollers on Robinhood are buying. Could be a bit of both.

This seems very likely. Robin Hood users seem to tend towards young and educated, so I imagine the transaction data would be a goldmine.

Is it? I'd expect anyone educated enough to actively trade with robinhood is not using a debit card for ordinary spending.

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#89

Maybe I'm doing it wrong but the "no foreign transaction fees" is just as exciting. Using my BofA card on trips always results in a welcome home set of charges I could do without.

Charles Schwab checking account has offered free ATM withdrawal worldwide for a long time.

As does Fidelity

Re: Robinhood launches 3% checking account

#90
post #81

They are offering this as a brokerage and not a bank so the accounts are not FDIC insured but SIPC insured instead https://support.robinhood.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001469903

Is it possible, that Robinhood is using high interest rate checking accounts not to make any money directly from them, but to encourage people to keep all their spare money one-click away from its investment products? In that case, checking accounts become just a business cost to Robinhood.

Or they use said money to buy bonds and/or start offering mortgages...etc.
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