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Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by throwaway987909 » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 3:31 PM UTC

gammateam wrote: post #5

The regulated psychoactive cannabis is way too strong for me. As long as its treated differently in its own licensing regime and establishments I think some form of education should accompany it, for consumers. Given generations of bad information. Its come up with others here in California, the THC products are REALLY strong and offputting for us casuals. The hybrids have potential

Same issue here with strength. There's a few places that grow CBD rich hemp (with undetectable levels of thc) in Oregon and they ship around the country. I haven't been able to smoke in like 10 years and this stuff is great! Occasionally I'll mix in a bit on the other stuff to make a blend with very low thc.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by foxyv » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 3:34 PM UTC

Nasrudith wrote: post #46

gdubs wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Particularly exciting given that concrete makes up close to 5% of global CO2 emissions.

Doesn't the CO2 eventually return to the concrete when it cures and hardens making it sorta the reverse of crops in long term neutrality? (Generates CO2 on creation but retrieves it eventually as opposes to capturing but returning eventually.)

Most of the CO2 produced is the energy used to process it. Concrete is very energy intensive.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by shittyadmin » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 3:34 PM UTC

specialist wrote: post #28

ckluis wrote: post #22

Fantastic news for construction: hempcrete - https://www.google.com/search?q=hempcrete

Cool, thanks for link. Tree hugger me keeps hoping bamboo and hemp sourced fibers displace most wood and plastic for most of modern society's short-lived tasks. Packaging, paper, hygiene, etc.

Isn't the whole bamboo thing just a sort of greenwashing? Sure, it grows fast, but it doesn't really grow more efficiently in terms of a resource consumption to output ratio than most other trees.

Might have been here that I heard this: http://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-bad-environmentalism-is-...

Unfortunately, some of the links out from there on the topic now appear broken.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by fb03 » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 3:50 PM UTC

DuPont is not gonna enjoy this.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by Lev1a » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 4:14 PM UTC

pluma wrote: post #30

As a non-American I'm a bit baffled. Does this mean hemp was previously illegal? In most of Europe cannabis is illegal but you can get hemp-infused drinks and food (though I personally don't care much for the taste), even energy drinks. Not to mention hemp-based textiles. In Germany growing hemp is illegal for private individuals but commercial growers can cultivate it if they exceed a certain minimum plantation size…

Also as a German, I think not having hemp used in the industry is not understandable. At home we've got a bundle of hemp fiber for plumbing (water, heating pipes etc.).

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 4:35 PM UTC

barrow-rider wrote: post #35

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #2

Senator McConnell is not known for his support of medical or recreational marijuana legalization but I view this as a step in the right direction. Take that, DuPont!

Senator McConnell is not known for his support of anything that doesn't benefit him, his donors, or his party. If he's swinging this way it's because he's got an agenda and he's horse-trading, in the same way that Bismark was alright with reforms like public education since it quieted down the radicals and kids who knew Trig could make better artillery officers. Hell, McConnell's official memoir is titled "The Long G…

For a Republican that article is a praise.

Your article is not about how he's corrupt, it's how he can whip votes and control the senate.

He's majority whip, it's his jobs to get votes, most of the time you have to make deals.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by gammateam » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 5:38 PM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #11

gammateam wrote: post #5

The regulated psychoactive cannabis is way too strong for me. As long as its treated differently in its own licensing regime and establishments I think some form of education should accompany it, for consumers. Given generations of bad information. Its come up with others here in California, the THC products are REALLY strong and offputting for us casuals. The hybrids have potential

> The regulated psychoactive cannabis is way too strong for me. Why not just smoke a sufficiently small particle then?

Its determining what sufficiently small is:

Any regulated shop is going to have clerks ambiguously asking you your tolerance level, as if we were all running around getting high for the last 20 years with illegal and consistent reliable sources - like they did.

Then they bombard you with edibles and all kinda of concoctions, most of which are impossible to have an even distribution of THC in them. Smoking being the lowest common denominator on this menu.

This is what consumers are experiencing for now, and it can improve.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by ataturk » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 6:09 PM UTC

barrow-rider wrote: post #35

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #2

Senator McConnell is not known for his support of medical or recreational marijuana legalization but I view this as a step in the right direction. Take that, DuPont!

Senator McConnell is not known for his support of anything that doesn't benefit him, his donors, or his party. If he's swinging this way it's because he's got an agenda and he's horse-trading, in the same way that Bismark was alright with reforms like public education since it quieted down the radicals and kids who knew Trig could make better artillery officers. Hell, McConnell's official memoir is titled "The Long G…

Yeah, I mean totally unlike every other US Senator. I mean, compared to say Chuck Schumer? You really think McConnell is the biggest POS?

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by CuriouslyC » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 6:22 PM UTC

goda90 wrote: post #48

gdubs wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Particularly exciting given that concrete makes up close to 5% of global CO2 emissions.

I'm not sure hempcrete would be able to replace most concrete since it's compressive strength is 1/20th of concrete, but it'll certainly help in some applications because it has its own advantages.

Hempcrete makes a great component of alternative homes, where environmental impact and low cost are important and structural strength/long term durability are less of an issue.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by kakarot » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 7:33 PM UTC

smaddox wrote: post #43

robotbikes wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jack Herer's book 'The Emperor Wears No Clothes' highlights this and is the source for a lot of the pro-hemp sentiment. It is also available online, here is a link to the chapter that highlights the paper industry lobbying to make hemp illegal - https://jackherer.com/emperor-3/chapter-4/

Wow... That is pretty convincing and damning...

I second this book. Every single page is enlightening. It's a pity that some people relegate this to a "conspiracy" when the concerted effort to make cannabis illegal in the early 20th century was very open and well-documented.