Amazon’s Disturbing Plan to Add Face Surveillance to Your Front Door
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#2It is not the technology that is dangerous but the scale and manner of its deployment. Patented, opaque, closed source, championed by mega-corporations closely allied with powerful governments, entirely beyond the analysis or oversight of the vast majority of citizens, completely connected realtime to various other systems, automated, eternally slurping up data for indefinite storage... these are the real concerning factors.
After all, a good old security guard also does 'face recognition' of everyone passing by, but with a human there are obvious limits and a person to confront, charge or circumvent. With ubiquitous, tiny robots all over the place, society will get sharply stratified into the 'watched' and the 'watchers' and the latter will get access to nearly limitless data and power. That's not good.
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#3News messages such as these are increasingly scary and alarming. They paint a picture of a very nearby dystopian society that, until now, was the stuff of fiction.
The news is successful in scaring us, but what can we do against this type of thing? What can I as an individual do? I can install ad-blockers, etc on my PC, but how can I prevent the technology described in the article from impacting my life or that of my children? I don't want them to grow up in a 1984 or Brave New World scenario. What can I do today to stop from, at the very least, my country from going down a path where this is considered normal?
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#4In my state Kerala in India, police seems to have started using face recognition. There was a huge protest recently in a famous temple called Sabarimala. Police had installed 12 cameras in the temple compound. If I understood correctly, the system compares live video feed against a database and alerts the police if anyone in the database was caught in the camera.
Quoted from the below link:
>"The cameras are equipped with artificial intelligence (AI). They can recognise people, who are among a crowd, by identifying faces. To ensure safety, the photographs of wanted people will be uploaded on the system. Whenever a person who is in the wanted list appears before the camera it will detect the person and send popup notifications to the three control rooms at Sabarimala," said IG Manoj Abraham, Cyberdome nodal officer.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2018/oct/14/no...
While I dont know the specifics, police used this system to arrest 200 known protestors by preparing a database of 1500 people and had the system go through over 800 hours of footage.
If that is not enough, now they are planning to use drones with facial recognition as well.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/specials/2018/sep/17/kerala-...
I thought the plans to use face recognition in airports was scary, but they are taking it to an entirely different level altogether.
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#5News messages such as these are increasingly scary and alarming. They paint a picture of a very nearby dystopian society that, until now, was the stuff of fiction. The news is successful in scaring us, but what can we do against this type of thing? What can I as an individual do? I can install ad-blockers, etc on my PC, but how can I prevent the technology described in the article from impacting my life or that of my…
Spread awareness, donate to causes like ACLU and EFF who will fight against this stuff, raise litigation, fight for legislation.
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#6Bezos - - the robber baron, slave driver goes full police state, anything to make money and run roughshod over citizen's rights . . .
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#7In my state Kerala in India, police seems to have started using face recognition. There was a huge protest recently in a famous temple called Sabarimala. Police had installed 12 cameras in the temple compound. If I understood correctly, the system compares live video feed against a database and alerts the police if anyone in the database was caught in the camera. Quoted from the below link: >"The cameras are equipped…
NYPD was using this during Occupy. Everyone complained that Occupy lacked organization.
But what was happening on the ground was that the NYPD was identifying who potential leaders were by using face recognition technology and (we believed) cell phone tracking to identify people who consistently showed up to different meetings.
They would then use the same face identification technology to pick these people out of crowds, and arrest them before or when major events occurred, so they would be in holding during the event.
Eventually the individuals would either be charged for resisting arrest, or let go since they were arrested without reason. Which dovetails into the other NYPD/LAPD tactic during mass protests of , in their words: "arrest people now, end the protest now, pay the civil liberties fines 10 years later."
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#8"Jeff, it's much easier to pave the way for Cthulhu when you pretend to be kind. Still a shitty thing to do, but easier."
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#9News messages such as these are increasingly scary and alarming. They paint a picture of a very nearby dystopian society that, until now, was the stuff of fiction. The news is successful in scaring us, but what can we do against this type of thing? What can I as an individual do? I can install ad-blockers, etc on my PC, but how can I prevent the technology described in the article from impacting my life or that of my…
Well, you can:
* Push your politicians to support GDPR-style legislation
* Donate to your politicians so they actually listen
* Run for office
* Try some weird tech solution like dazzle clothing (this won't work most likely)
* Take inspiration from Exit, Voice, and Loyalty, and emigrate to a place with governance that more closely reflects your own values. A place covered by the GDPR would be a good start. _Presumably_ if your country loses enough talented people it will work to retain them. But, that's a pretty long-term approach and I have doubts about it's true efficacy (My homeland is hardly building great bike infrastructure since I left, and that was one of the biggest motivations)
* (Also pretty extreme and of dubious efficacy long-term) live off-grid somewhere remote and not walk by people's houses.
Probably a lost cause, though. I find it infuriating that my voice is being listened to by Alexa, etc. when I'm in other people's homes, but they don't seem to care. Maybe civilization will collapse and render this a moot point.
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#10I got this creepy recruiting email from Amazon.
"Amazon PeopleTech’s mission is to re-invent ways for our employees to connect with one another. You will work closely with our team of engineers in designing a strategy for new projects like our new Facial Recognition technology for Amazon’s Time and Attendance systems"
I love connecting with people!