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Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by iamthirsty »

TheBeardKing wrote: post #21
redwood wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly this will make it harder to grow high quality outdoor and even indoor (pollination risk rising; one reason it became relatively easy to grow high-quality outdoor is it the government ensured there were no males in vicinity!)

I recently learned from Narcos:Mexico that when drug cartels first created a female breed, they moved to cultivate it in the middle of a desert to ensure no cross-pollination.

Just an FYI, cannabis sativa has been grown for thousands of years.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by dekhn »

elhudy wrote: post #9
kylek wrote: post #7

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It’s actually way, wayyy more nuanced than that unfortunately. THC is only one of a plethora of components at play (it’s been bred for higher and higher THC content for decades, mostly ignoring the other, more medicinal parts). Only recently have I started seeing products in dispensaries with cannabinoid/terpenoid profiles to give a more accurate picture of the effects, I think we’re going to start seeing more produc…

I have to ask: is terpene an actual scientifically defined word? I've only ever heard stoners use it to describe different marijuana strain's scents. Googling it yields nothing but pot-related results. How have I made it through so many years of studying plethoras of high level scientific subjects and am just now hearing this word? Now on HN nonetheless...

yep, terpenes are organic compounds found in a wide range of plants. It's one of the reason pine trees smell so nice.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by smaddox »

robotbikes wrote: post #37
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #33

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>hemp's industrial value was the reason it was made illegal 100 years ago Do you have a source for this? I would like to investigate this angle further.

Jack Herer's book 'The Emperor Wears No Clothes' highlights this and is the source for a lot of the pro-hemp sentiment. It is also available online, here is a link to the chapter that highlights the paper industry lobbying to make hemp illegal - https://jackherer.com/emperor-3/chapter-4/

Wow... That is pretty convincing and damning...

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by smaddox »

faoijef984jfj wrote: post #34
yboris wrote: post #32

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What's wrong with decriminalizing every drug? I highly recommend the book Legalize This! : The Case for Decriminalizing Drugs (Practical Ethics Series) by Doug Husak https://www.amazon.com/Legalize-This-Decriminalizing-Practic...

I agree with you 100% Monopolization of the healthcare system and drug criminalization are two sides of the same coin. With headlines about opioid abuse epidemics, and looking back at how ridiculous the war on drugs is, and how ridiculous it is to have cannabis as a Class I substance, it's difficult to argue that the medical system is somehow functioning well when it comes to drug regulation. Take acyclovir, which is…

I can't agree that drug regulation hasn't increased safety. Safety incidents are still quite common with unregulated "supplements". See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zicam and https://www.nature.com/articles/ajg2014131 .

That being said, clearly the current system has flaws. Perhaps the FDA could alter their requirements for sale to approximate "does not cause harm", with additional classes for "provides more benefit than harm", etc. The problem is, how do you get drug companies to pay for effectiveness studies if they don't have to? This would actually disincentivize such studies.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by Nasrudith »

gdubs wrote: post #44
ckluis wrote: post #22

Fantastic news for construction: hempcrete - https://www.google.com/search?q=hempcrete

Particularly exciting given that concrete makes up close to 5% of global CO2 emissions.

Doesn't the CO2 eventually return to the concrete when it cures and hardens making it sorta the reverse of crops in long term neutrality? (Generates CO2 on creation but retrieves it eventually as opposes to capturing but returning eventually.)

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by gdubs »

gammateam wrote: post #5

The regulated psychoactive cannabis is way too strong for me. As long as its treated differently in its own licensing regime and establishments I think some form of education should accompany it, for consumers. Given generations of bad information. Its come up with others here in California, the THC products are REALLY strong and offputting for us casuals. The hybrids have potential

There are a lot of high CBD low THC strains out there, as well as CBD oil that has virtually no THC in it as well (but still with lots of reported value from anecdotal reports). CBD, to simplify things, counterbalances THC, so in a strain that’s high in CBD, there should be less intense psychoactive effects and in a pure CBD oil it’s a lot the positive aspects of cannabis with no psychoactive effects.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by goda90 »

gdubs wrote: post #44
ckluis wrote: post #22

Fantastic news for construction: hempcrete - https://www.google.com/search?q=hempcrete

Particularly exciting given that concrete makes up close to 5% of global CO2 emissions.

I'm not sure hempcrete would be able to replace most concrete since it's compressive strength is 1/20th of concrete, but it'll certainly help in some applications because it has its own advantages.

Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by [deleted] »

gammateam wrote: post #5

The regulated psychoactive cannabis is way too strong for me. As long as its treated differently in its own licensing regime and establishments I think some form of education should accompany it, for consumers. Given generations of bad information. Its come up with others here in California, the THC products are REALLY strong and offputting for us casuals. The hybrids have potential

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Re: Congress just voted to legalize hemp

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Post by Nasrudith »

smaddox wrote: post #45
faoijef984jfj wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you 100% Monopolization of the healthcare system and drug criminalization are two sides of the same coin. With headlines about opioid abuse epidemics, and looking back at how ridiculous the war on drugs is, and how ridiculous it is to have cannabis as a Class I substance, it's difficult to argue that the medical system is somehow functioning well when it comes to drug regulation. Take acyclovir, which is…

I can't agree that drug regulation hasn't increased safety. Safety incidents are still quite common with unregulated "supplements". See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zicam and https://www.nature.com/articles/ajg2014131 . That being said, clearly the current system has flaws. Perhaps the FDA could alter their requirements for sale to approximate "does not cause harm", with additional classes for "provides more benef…

That already exists but for desperate subsets. Some chemotherapy drugs are themselves ironically carcinogenic - sometimes for the same area they are meant to treat. If they work better than the standard of care they get approved. Since if you already have cancer "might give you cancer in a decade" is an improvement over cancer now - especially since relapses are already a risk.

I think the real issue with FDA regulations are monopolism related more than approval - not that they haven't made the occasional boneheaded move like being reluctant to approve superior sunscreens.

Allowing reimportarion and government bulk purchase negotiations would cut margins and offer good safeguards against monopoly exploitation since if it is cheaper to ship something circularly you are getting ripped off.

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