Surely they must realize that after you purchase a phone re-targetting will only be effective at least a year+ later.
An open letter to FB, Twitter, Instagram regarding algorithms and my son's birth
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
She said it is a "rejection of her reality", which is complete hyperbole. I can't find the original comment to check the exact words she used.
Yes, her reality is that she is no longer the person whom the ads continue to target her as. She claims that the level of misperception she's seeing from her ads is higher than normal, and provides examples of such. She's not claiming that non-transgendered persons never see mistargeted ads.
How can she blame the algorithms for rejecting her, if her past actually contains things that the algorithm happens to pick up on?
Since everybody gets ads that don't appeal to them, clearly it is just a case of algorithms not being smart enough. It's like saying the sky rejects her because it isn't pink. It is blue for technical reasons, not to spite her identity.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
This happens all the time to me. And I'm the most generic type you can find, if you are attempting to classify humans: middle class tech savvy healthy white male 30-39. All it takes is a really really simple wrench in their system: my wife uses my computer (oh my god can you imagine that?!)
All it takes is a really really simple wrench in their system: my wife uses my computer (oh my god can you imagine that?!) Yep. Remarketing is a great way to ruin Christmas shopping surprises on a shared IP address.
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#334Re: An open letter to FB, Twitter, Instagram regarding algorithms and my son's birth
#335I used to love ads. Every time I saw a new ad show up, I'd get a little bit excited, knowing that it would be my friend for the next few month or years. When I saw an old familiar ad, I made sure to greet it, so that it doesn't get lonely. I took it as part of my social responsibility - the same as picking up after my dog - to buy products when I'd seen enough ads for them.
That's not to say all ads were good - sometimes, I would see an ad for something that I didn't like. But this was always a cause for reflection - had I forgotten to tell the machine about some private detail of my life, the knowledge of which it could have targeted me better? On those occasions, I would make a promise to feed it more data, to make sure it was more able to help me. Then, I would dutifully mark the ad "I don't want to see this ad", to inform it of it's mistake. The machine would always learn quickly, and go back to showing me happy, friendly ads. I would be extra careful to buy those products, to make sure the mahcine knew it was doing a good job.
But. There came a time when the machine started making mistakes, and wouldn't stop. I had realized that only two people - me and my husband - simply couldn't buy that many things, and we needed more mouths as tributes to the machine. I had entered a new stage in my life, and was already buying more products than I ever had before. And the machine was cooperative, helpful, bringing me new friends every day. And that would have continued being the case, as my child grew the machine would have helped it select its' college. But it never grew up. Because it was never born. Because it was stillborn. And the machine didn't learn. And when I told it I wanted ads for antidepressants and cabbage, it didn't listen. It kept on showing me ads for products for a baby that I would never have. And I could follow, as the years passed, each stage of my unborn babies life, as the machine desperately tried to target ads at it.
What once were my friends have become my worst nightmare. What once was my partner in better supporting my consumerism, became my tormentor. What once was a happy member of society became a broken shell. It could happen to you too.
Also:
>there are 26000 stillbirths in the US every year
>when we millions of broken-hearted
thought that would slip by me if you broke it over two pictures, did you?
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#336"We're sorry your baby passed away, how about get a new one from here?"
That's sick.
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#337It always amazes me how stupid these company's algos are sometimes. Amazon tells me I've had an account with them for over a decade. It knows I've bought 2 kettles from them. When does it start serving ads for kettles? Just after I've bought one. On the other hand I'm not sure most people would want facebook wt al 'knowing' they've just lost their child, so other than getting rid of targetted ads, I'm not sure what o…
>It always amazes me how stupid these company's algos are sometimes. If they're so stupid, why are they making so much money? Is an algo with a positive RoI really stupid?
Amazon just suggests things I've looked at regardless of whether I've bought it. I hopefully won't be buying a new kettle for a few years, so its just wasted. Why don't they try upselling me related things instead of spamming me?
Their algo has been suggesting things for over 10 years, based on over 10 years of buying data. I've clicked on zero of their ads or emails.
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#338This seems to happen a lot when one's experience is statistically unlikely, or when it doesn't neatly mesh with a commercial opportunity. For instance, I am a transgender woman and I get THE WEIRDEST ads. Makes sense, since an algorithm meshing together my engagement histories from ten years of social platforms must see something quite strange. The only appropriately targeted advertisements I get are from academics i…
I am coming to the conclusion that the only way to beat the system is to not play in the system. Or play as little as possible. I no longer go on FB, Instagram or Amazon. I do my best to just be anonymous. I don't "need" to hang out on social media. I lived quite happily before these services even existed, and will continue without them. We have control. We can resist their shiny toys. If we are waiting for THEM (or…
If any of the answers is yes then you are being watched and profiled. And of course those companies you actively avoid would simply buy raw data or "analytics" from the companies you still use.
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#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am coming to the conclusion that the only way to beat the system is to not play in the system. Or play as little as possible. I no longer go on FB, Instagram or Amazon. I do my best to just be anonymous. I don't "need" to hang out on social media. I lived quite happily before these services even existed, and will continue without them. We have control. We can resist their shiny toys. If we are waiting for THEM (or…
Do you use your smartphone? Or dumbphone? Do you use credit cards (including debit cards and every other way of electronic payments)? Do you use browser? Even loaded with anti-spying plugins? If any of the answers is yes then you are being watched and profiled. And of course those companies you actively avoid would simply buy raw data or "analytics" from the companies you still use.
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#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, her reality is that she is no longer the person whom the ads continue to target her as. She claims that the level of misperception she's seeing from her ads is higher than normal, and provides examples of such. She's not claiming that non-transgendered persons never see mistargeted ads.
How does she know what is "normal"? That was my point - nobody is "rejecting her reality". There are simply some ads that don't appeal to her, as happens to everybody else, too. How can she blame the algorithms for rejecting her, if her past actually contains things that the algorithm happens to pick up on? Since everybody gets ads that don't appeal to them, clearly it is just a case of algorithms not being smart eno…
Would you say the same about the situation in the linked article?