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Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by acdha »

zeotroph wrote: post #204
acqq wrote: post #147

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> This is completely unnecessary It is completely necessary for me to have “move one page up on click.”

But, that is what PgUp/PgDown are for on the keyboard, no? When you are navigating in these discrete steps why use the mouse, which is excellent for continuous input. If I click on something, I want to go THERE, not in the direction of it. "But we have always done it in this (imo illogical) way" is just being stubborn.

If you have a keyboard which has those and it doesn’t require moving your hand off of the mouse to hit them, it might be easier. Many smaller keyboards (e.g. most laptops or Apple’s non-pro keyboards) either omit them entirely or require a modifier key.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by lunchables »

jjordan wrote: post #15

Is this the version that kills Live Bookmarks? Some of us FF old-timers are hopelessly reliant on these things, and it's, as far as I have found, the fastest way to quickly scan lists of headlines from all your favorite sites at once. Seriously, one click and you can quickly mouse over the sites on your bookmarks toolbar to consume hundreds of headlines. I really, REALLY hate that they're killing this feature, but th…

I am a _huge_ RSS user (TinyTiny-RSS) but I don't think enough people used these features to continue supporting them. Plus, I really do not want my web browser to be an RSS reader. Have you considered moving to a dedicated RSS reader ?

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by acdha »

archgoon wrote: post #402
Ar-Curunir wrote: post #378

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Emacs or vi don't handle potentially malicious third-party code...

Sure they do. That's what extensions are.

That’s like saying everyone is at risk of bear attacks because a few people in rural areas do get attacked. Yes, extensions exist but when was the last time someone clicked on a link in an email and installed an emacs extension? That happens daily to thousands of web users because the population is so many orders of magnitude greater.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by zamadatix »

whalesalad wrote: post #122
jt2190 wrote: post #3

Some things I've been looking forward to: > Easier performance management: The new Task Manager page found at about:performance lets you see how much energy each open tab consumes and provides access to close tabs to conserve power > Improved performance for Mac and Linux users, by enabling link time optimization (Clang LTO). (Clang LTO was enabled for Windows users in Firefox 63.) Release Notes: https://www.mozilla.…

> Improved performance for Mac and Linux users, by enabling link time optimization (Clang LTO). Does this mean I need to build it myself or is the binary gonna ship this way?

The binary should ship that way unless your distro decided otherwise. You can easily check by going to about:buildconfig and seeing which compiler was used.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by robin_reala »

JohnFen wrote: post #309
robin_reala wrote: post #95

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Yep. One ungracious explanation could be that Google is penalising Firefox users, but a more likely reason is that Firefox successfully blocks some of the information leakage from the browser that Google uses to decide whether a browser user is a bot or a human. I’ve no doubt that Chrome is very secure, but I do doubt that Google does much to stop it sending data back to Google controlled domains.

"I’ve no doubt that Chrome is very secure, but I do doubt that Google does much to stop it sending data back to Google controlled domains." Either Chrome is sending data home, or it is "very secure". It can't be both.

Well, Chrome comes from Google, so if you don’t trust Google to store your data I’d recommend not using the browser at all. I certainly don’t (apart from for unlogged-in development testing), but if you do then there shouldn’t be a problem.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by molteanu »

bovine3dom wrote: post #468
molteanu wrote: post #439

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I'm now using cVim[0] plugin on Chromium. When I've switched from Firefox a year ago there was no real alternative to keysnail[1]. Backwards compatibility between Firefox releases began to break beginning of 2017. mooz, the developer of keysnail, managed to do some heroics and bring back the usability of the plugin on the never versions. Finally, Firefox 57 put the nail in the coffin and keysnail was declared dead on…

Mooz has made xkeysnail which can do some of the same things, anywhere in X. There's also a menagerie of Vimperator alikes for Firefox: Tridactyl, Vim Vixen, Surfingkeys, Vimium-FF, VVVimpulation. Most of them have improved substantially since September 2017. Disclaimer: lots of Tridactyl's jank is my fault.

Yes, I know. I'm using xkeysnail on Linux for C-n, C-p and C-m keybindings which I haven't seem to make it work in cVim. And for Windows, AHK for the same functionality.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by Vel0cityX »

aylmao wrote: post #158
kevincrane wrote: post #120

> We’re excited to introduce multiple tab selection, which makes it easier to manage windows with many open tabs. Simply hold Control (Windows, Linux) or Command (macOS) and click on tabs to select them. Once selected, click and drag to move the tabs as a group — either within a given window, or out into a new window. Yessss. It doesn't happen often, but the times when I open up 6-10 tabs for research but then decide…

It's the little things (: To be honest as soon as I figure out how to change all the little workflow details I currently use in Chrome, I'll be happy to switch to use Firefox more often / primarily. I love how snappy Quantum feels.

Or Vivaldi (https://vivaldi.com), which has many such quality of life improvements over both Chrome and Firefox.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by marcolinux »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #445
ignaloidas wrote: post #436

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You know that modifying the gauge for train carriages is really quite easy? Same with browser - it's really easy to modify Firefox to work as you want it to.

> it's really easy to modify Firefox to work as you want it to. Apparently support for doing gestures correctly would "break the security model" and the code would be rejected, so I'm going to disagree there.

About gestures: firegesture seems to have just vanished, so Im using easystroke (linux). It works with any app, not just firefox.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by moosingin3space »

owaislone wrote: post #422
moosingin3space wrote: post #38

Kind of a niche thing to comment on, but this release lands a commit I made that enables XDG desktop portals support in Firefox. If you're on KDE Plasma, you can run Firefox with the environment variable `GTK_USE_PORTAL=1` set and it will use KDE file selection dialogs.

Thank you! This is very cool. Would the logical next step be the auto enable this sort of thing based on the platform?

Right now, this is automatically enabled based on whether the application runs in a Flatpak sandbox. I spoke with GTK developers on IRC, and while they want to enable it by default, there are some unresolved issues, summarized in this Reddit comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/9my9fe/qt_file_pic....

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by tnr23 »

Damn, since the update the browser SSH is not working anymore in the Google Cloud console with Firefox 64. Had to install Google Chrome to make it work... Let's see where this overcomplicating of the web by Google leads to ;-)
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