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Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by geerlingguy » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 4:42 AM UTC

zonywhoop wrote: post #171

rolleiflex wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing applies to AWS, and AWS doesn't have '10 servers maximum' limit. Beyond anything, it tells people about their target audience, which is indie development. That's fine, and it's a great market to be in. But in the case I have to spin up 17 servers in 24 hours in three continents, I can't really afford to deal with DigitalOcean's support under that kind of stress. This doesn't happen often, but when it h…

AWS most definitely has service limits that apply to all products including ec2 for this exact (and other abusive) reasons. In fact, the aws limits are even more convoluted and can hit at random if not tracked. More details here: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/faqs/#How_many_instances_can_I_ru...

Yeah, as I was building out some apps over the past year it was a game of ‘which account limit will I hit next’. Most of them require a support ticket to be raised, and justification.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by geerlingguy » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 4:45 AM UTC

ohashi wrote: post #174

rb666 wrote: post #172

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This I don't understand, there's a million cheaper VPS providers. I can understand choosing DO cause it's hip and they have great tutorials, but price? Nope.

They hit a balance of price, simplicity and I'm sure they will be there tomorrow though.

That and as a user of 12 different LowEndBox-style providers, DigitalOcean is only marginally more expensive, with way less downtime, faster support response, an easy to use API, integrations with everything, and even planned maintenance windows which are clearly communicated.

Most of the lower priced options are run on a more shoestring budget and get uptime measured in the 98s. Also, I find a lot more noisy neighbors with many LEB-style providers.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by MuffinFlavored » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 4:50 AM UTC

mark-ruwt wrote: post #72

rfinney wrote: post #34

Serious question: Is there an emerging cross platform workflow language to just write stuff to run on any cloud/container hosting setup? The idea would be to be portable, avoid vendor lock-in and take advantage price differences or quickly route around a system failure in one of the providers.

We rely on bash. Each machine that's spun up is built from scratch via one command-line call. The first half of the process interacts with each hosting API (we rely on DigitalOcean, Linode, and Vultr primarily), to build a clean slate machine with all of the packages and libraries that we expect. The second half of the process runs the actual build process, building the instance step-by-step on top of the clean slate…

Why/what benefit?

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by RSZC » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 4:58 AM UTC

flurdy wrote: post #22

Been a user of DOs beta kubernetes service and it works well. Though I would say the title of the linked article is a bit misleading. It is a Kubernetes as a service, like EKS, GKE and AKS. But not vanilla container service a la ECS, Fargate, the former Docker Cloud, etc.

Curious - what are some good alternatives to Fargate? Enjoy the ease of use, but more expensive than I'd like for low-to-no traffic side projects

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by alfg » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 5:22 AM UTC

Love Digital Ocean! I've been a member since early '13 and I still use it monthly to host my projects as an open-source developer.

I love everything from their clean design, great tutorials and easy of use for everything VPS related.

I hope the best for them.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by rolleiflex » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 5:39 AM UTC

amichal wrote: post #170

rolleiflex wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing applies to AWS, and AWS doesn't have '10 servers maximum' limit. Beyond anything, it tells people about their target audience, which is indie development. That's fine, and it's a great market to be in. But in the case I have to spin up 17 servers in 24 hours in three continents, I can't really afford to deal with DigitalOcean's support under that kind of stress. This doesn't happen often, but when it h…

AWS also has a initial soft limit on EC2 instances. I dont remember what it is but its <100

Yeah, I’m sure they have — It’s just that AWS’ limits are a lot more compatible with a startup (vs an indie developer) than DigitalOcean’s.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by philtar » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 5:39 AM UTC

RSZC wrote: post #184

flurdy wrote: post #22

Been a user of DOs beta kubernetes service and it works well. Though I would say the title of the linked article is a bit misleading. It is a Kubernetes as a service, like EKS, GKE and AKS. But not vanilla container service a la ECS, Fargate, the former Docker Cloud, etc.

Curious - what are some good alternatives to Fargate? Enjoy the ease of use, but more expensive than I'd like for low-to-no traffic side projects

Digital Ocean Droplet

AWS Micro Instance

AWS Lightsail

Linode Nanonode

Shared Hosting

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Tons of options for $5 a month.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by rolleiflex » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 5:41 AM UTC

zacharybk wrote: post #179

rolleiflex wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing applies to AWS, and AWS doesn't have '10 servers maximum' limit. Beyond anything, it tells people about their target audience, which is indie development. That's fine, and it's a great market to be in. But in the case I have to spin up 17 servers in 24 hours in three continents, I can't really afford to deal with DigitalOcean's support under that kind of stress. This doesn't happen often, but when it h…

Hey Rolleiflex - Thanks so much for being a DigitalOcean customer! We would be happy to increase your Droplet limit if you get in touch. Just visit the support link from your Cloud control panel to make the request or drop me a line directly (first name @). Thanks! Zach Director of Support, DigitalOcean

Hey Zach, thanks for chiming in. I’ve moved on from DO to AWS a long time ago, but I appreciate the sentiment.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by RSZC » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 6:03 AM UTC

philtar wrote: post #187

RSZC wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious - what are some good alternatives to Fargate? Enjoy the ease of use, but more expensive than I'd like for low-to-no traffic side projects

Digital Ocean Droplet AWS Micro Instance AWS Lightsail Linode Nanonode Shared Hosting ----- Tons of options for $5 a month.

Sorry, should've been more specific - looking for the same sort of 'provide a container and we take care of everything else' experience, but ideally for a cheaper price. I know I could get a micro instance and set up ECS on it, but it just seems like such a royal PITA...

Also like how my deploy script is basically 'build image; push image; aws ecs update-service'.

With my side projects that are running on a droplet, it feels like there's an incredible amount of additional setup that I need to do every time I add an additional project. Add the new site to the reverse proxy, setup a git server I can push to, set up post-receive hooks for the server, etc., etc.

Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service

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Post by StudentStuff » Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 6:08 AM UTC

geerlingguy wrote: post #182

ohashi wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They hit a balance of price, simplicity and I'm sure they will be there tomorrow though.

That and as a user of 12 different LowEndBox-style providers, DigitalOcean is only marginally more expensive, with way less downtime, faster support response, an easy to use API, integrations with everything, and even planned maintenance windows which are clearly communicated. Most of the lower priced options are run on a more shoestring budget and get uptime measured in the 98s. Also, I find a lot more noisy neighbo…

Perhaps OVH is worth a gander, I find it strikes a good balance between DO's pricing and the LowEndTalk providers, yet the uptime is still impressive.

https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-ssd.xml