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Re: Firefox 64 Released

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"If you can allow websites to hide the mouse cursor" I object to this as well, but that's a battle that was lost a long time ago.

What do you mean, as well? That's the only bit you didn't ignore.. and it's useful for when you draw your own cursor in WebGL. I can't think of a single time I ever saw it abused, I guess I don't frequent the kind of website that would.

By "as well", I mean "as well as objecting to web devs being able to alter the appearance of browser controls".

Yes, I do see the usefulness of being able to do all of those things, but in practice, I don't appreciate it when it's done. I'm not saying that it's abusive (and I'm not talking about egregious misuse of these abilities), I'm just saying that I personally dislike it when sites do this sort of thing.

I fear that I've come off as too militant on these issues -- as a web dev, you should do what you deem best. As a user, if your choices are too annoying to me, I'll just avoid your site.

I think this whole thing just plays into a personal issue I have over the web these days... from a usability and aesthetic standpoint, the web has been noticeably declining for me over the past few years.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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> We’re excited to introduce multiple tab selection, which makes it easier to manage windows with many open tabs. Simply hold Control (Windows, Linux) or Command (macOS) and click on tabs to select them. Once selected, click and drag to move the tabs as a group — either within a given window, or out into a new window. Yessss. It doesn't happen often, but the times when I open up 6-10 tabs for research but then decide…

Also being able to save them as a session would be a nice touch.

I just found this yesterday, for saving sessions.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/session-sync/

It has the advantage that it just saves to a special spot in bookmarks, so these sessions sync across devices too:

open source too: https://github.com/ReDEnergy/SessionSync

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Ctrl+Tab doesn't work on Mac like other more popular or well-known browsers on any OS... Having a basic often-used feature go against the grain is a disconcerting choice that has caused me to switch back to Brave and Chrome.

What do you mean by this? If you mean ctrl-tab switching to tabs in most recent used order, there is an option for that now. It's actually on by default in new profiles in Firefox. The previous behavior (in order switching) was left for existing profiles, to avoid disruption.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Ctrl+Tab doesn't work on Mac like other more popular or well-known browsers on any OS... Having a basic often-used feature go against the grain is a disconcerting choice that has caused me to switch back to Brave and Chrome.

I found this strange too, thankfully it is easy to change by turning off: Preferences > Tabs > Ctrl + Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order

Re: Firefox 64 Released

#325

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Those controls are not part of the content, they are part of the application or operating environment itself, and I have configured them the way that I want them. As such, they should be off limits to web designer's whims. As an aside, my experience with web sites over the years (particularly recently) doesn't exactly give me a great deal of confidence that they would make appropriate choices for the appearance of th…

> Those controls are not part of the content, they are part of the application or operating environment itself, and I have configured them the way that I want them. Depends on the browser, but e.g. text area colors can be styled anyway (and therefore made unusable, how irresponsible that CSS allows for this), and whether scrollbars show up in the first place is CSS, too. You can override that with user stylesheets if…

"If you can't read the text, why do you care about the scrollbar?"

Because it's not really about being able to read the text. It's about usability and my preference for appearance.

"How is an ugly scrollbar, or one that uses the same color twice and is unusable that way, worse than none?"

It's not. None is worse, by far.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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You have no idea how excited I am for this. I use sway as my daily driver since it supports HiDPI so much better than i3, but the one caveat to that has been firefox and xwayland. Once this ships, sway will have nearly flawless HiDPI support.

I'm not. Wayland lacks a lot compared to X.[1] From the linked-to-post, it lacks: * Programmatic output configuration (xrandr, arandr, etc.) * CLI clipboard access (xsel, xclip) * Third party app launcher/window switcher (rofi, dmenu, albert, docky). * Clipboard managers (parcellite, klipper, Gpaste, clipman, etc.) * Third party screen shot/capture/share (shutter, OBS, ffmpeg, import, peek, scrot, VNC, etc.) * Color…

Luckily, Firefox supporting Wayland doesn't hurt you at all. I'm also very excited about Firefox supporting Wayland. It isn't dropping support for X11.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Personally am looking forward to 65 when we get webp support everywhere but from Apple. Its all politics, but once 80% of browsers support it, the pressure will be on Apple to finally let us use an image format from this century.

Apple is standing behind HEIF, so quite unlikely.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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This specific problem is one of those exceptions. This is a known issue, and has been around since at least v57. There are multiple Bugzilla issues on it. The cause is known. It isn't extensions. The fix is just invasive, and apparently ongoing.

That’s true but not what this thread was about. The person I responded to above was making a very broad claim, which is wrong, and jillesvangurp agreed with the observation and added a general point which is correct. There is a specific issue affecting a subset of people with less common configurations but that doesn’t make the sweeping claim true or the recognition that browser performance issues are notoriously poo…

Scaled resolution option is so widely used that it might as well be broken entirely.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

#330

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Yeah, the feature is not introduced that well. It is mostly a good feature for the extension that they are talking about, TreeStyleTab[1], which explains the feature. Piro's blogpost is actually awesome. It describes the history of the feature, and how it is used today in his extension. However, they could stand do the documentation themselves, or at least setting up the context of the blog-post a little more. I am n…

In this case, I don't care much if the blog is pretty or not and who wrote it, even if Tree Style Tabs is my main reason for using Firefox. The problem is that Firefox is relying on an external source as the main explanation of their new API. Will the URL still be right in a few months? They have no control over it. MDN is one of the best achievements of Mozilla, so I worry when I see it is not updated with their own…

As mentioned above, piro_or is the developer of the popular extension this feature was tailor-made for. I imagine it is well-documented on their site because they were closely involved in the development. I see no reason not to presume the documentation hasn't been added to the wiki yet simply because the devs were working down to the wire to get it included in this release as many users have been clamoring for it. In fact, there is a fairly detailed blog post on Mozilla's site that suggests this is the case.[1] All the worst-case assumptions about Mozilla on this site are getting tiresome.

1. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2018/11/08/extensions-in-fir...

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