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Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Good work guys. For those using Firefox, I have one question. Is there any way to replicate Chrome's tab-to-search feature? It's literally the ONLY reason I'm still on Chrome. Let me explain by showing how I would search for "apples" in youtube across both browsers. Firefox: 1 - Ctrl+L (go to location bar) 2 - Type "you", press "down" to select youtube from history. 3 - Wait for site to load...... 4 - Click on search…

Hi, I am using firefox with duckduckgo. Firefox + DDG = Ctrl+L - Type "!yt apples", press enter https://duckduckgo.com/bang

This is so cool! DDG is my default search engine but I only knew about !g for Google.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Not sure if sarcasm but web developers routinely screw up text color, making it illegible due to low contrast among other things.

That's the point.. since you probably woulnd't argue for taking away background and text color, you already "trust" web devs with those. If a website is unreadable, the scrollbar doesn't matter. If it's readable, the scrollbar will look great, too. Also see other comment.

> That's the point.. since you probably woulnd't argue for taking away background and text color, you already "trust" web devs with those.

I would, reader modes are a godsend that revert the web back to how it should have always been, with the client controlling the text and background color in a way consistent with the rest of the system.

Content display should be up to the user, not the designer.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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> it ruins the immersion and reminds you hey, this is just a browser game, not a real game. If you're uncomfortable with the user realizing the game is a browser game, why did you make it in a browser?

Implying there's some intrinsic reason browsers can't have customizeable scrollbars.

It's called usability through famiarity.

Customising UI elements is a usability antipattern.

Per [1], predictability and familiarity are key in creating usable interfaces. Making things look nice "because you can" doesn't necessarily mean you should.

> When designing your interface, try to be consistent and predictable in your choice of interface elements. Whether they are aware of it or not, users have become familiar with elements acting in a certain way, so choosing to adopt those elements when appropriate will help with task completion, efficiency, and satisfaction.

[1] https://www.usability.gov/how-to-and-tools/methods/user-inte...

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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No sarcasm, and that question wasn't rhetorical either: How is a scrollbar that different from other input elements within webpages that can already be styled? And what do you mean by using non-default colors? User stylesheets would also include scrollbar colors anyway; do you mean just setting a background but no text color (assuming a default of black, which might not be black for the user)? Don't see how this coul…

"If you can allow websites to hide the mouse cursor" I object to this as well, but that's a battle that was lost a long time ago.

What do you mean, as well? That's the only bit you didn't ignore.. and it's useful for when you draw your own cursor in WebGL. I can't think of a single time I ever saw it abused, I guess I don't frequent the kind of website that would.

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What is bounce scroll?

(Also called rubber-band scroll or elastic-scrolling) macOS feature adopted from iOS where when you try to scroll past the end of a document, rather than just doing nothing, it sort of stretches/bounces/rubber-bands past the bounds and then snaps back. It's nice because (1) it feels believable and physical (2) it gives you feedback that you really are at the end of the document, rather than just the computer lagging.

Ah, TIL there's a name for that.

Yes, the feedback is useful, though I'd never really realised that until now. Thanks.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Does it support hardware accelerated video playback on Linux now? I have been waiting for this feature for I don't know how many years. Every Firefox release, I am reminded of this xkcd comic: https://xkcd.com/619/

To be fair, that particular comic is slightly funny because we have now outlived Flash video.

Yet the problem persists.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Hi, I am using firefox with duckduckgo. Firefox + DDG = Ctrl+L - Type "!yt apples", press enter https://duckduckgo.com/bang

!hn for hacker news, !gi for google images and !wt for wiktionary.

Thanks for these. I always want to search in hn specifically. This will be so helpful.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Just another data point: I've never experienced screen tearing in the decades that I've used X. Also, when I run X just for myself on my own laptop, what security issues do I have to worry about with X that I don't have to worry about with Wayland?

That's interesting, because I've had tearing issues with all major GPU brands (Intel, AMD and Nvidia), in particular when multiple monitors are involved. What's your setup like? With regards to security, the main issue is that X11 provides no isolation between applications, allowing them to listen to keystrokes and the clipboard at all times. With Wayland, only focused applications have this access.

"What's your setup like?"

Currently I'm using an old, slow laptop, with a graphics card integrated in to the motherboard. Nothing special. But I don't do any demanding graphics processing on it. I just watch movies and use web browsers and a terminal. I don't play graphically intense games on it.

"With regards to security, the main issue is that X11 provides no isolation between applications, allowing them to listen to keystrokes and the"

I don't see why this should concern me or 90% of X users, because if any malware manages to run on our systems it'll already have full control over them without needing to resort to any kind of keystroke sniffing in X.

I'm struggling to think of a scenario where malware's running on the same machine with access to a single X session, which doesn't already have full control over the account whose keystrokes they'd be presumably sniffing. They could just substitute their own malware versions of web browsers, shells, editors, or whatever other software the user uses and sniff keystrokes in there, without needing to touch X.

Not that it hurts to have more isolation than you get in X, but I'd need a lot more convincing for me to give up the convenience I already enjoy with X.

Can someone paint me a realistic, relatively common threat scenario where not having Wayland's isolation would actually present a serious security risk?

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Anecdotally I keep finding myself stuck in Captcha loops of Firefox and the same sites work fine on Chrome? Anyone else finding this?

Yep. One ungracious explanation could be that Google is penalising Firefox users, but a more likely reason is that Firefox successfully blocks some of the information leakage from the browser that Google uses to decide whether a browser user is a bot or a human. I’ve no doubt that Chrome is very secure, but I do doubt that Google does much to stop it sending data back to Google controlled domains.

"I’ve no doubt that Chrome is very secure, but I do doubt that Google does much to stop it sending data back to Google controlled domains."

Either Chrome is sending data home, or it is "very secure". It can't be both.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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I'm afraid I'm a bit of a one-issue voter when it comes to web browser, and the reason that I haven't switched to Firefox from Chrome (even though ideologically I want to) is this workflow that I use for clicking links in other apps. I open an incognito/private browser window in the foreground, then click the link in the other application. In Chrome, this opens the link in the incognito window. In Firefox, this opens…

I still haven’t switched from chrome because of the superior multi-user switching and the ability to have different proxies on different user accounts.
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