So now that's managed K8S, managed databases, load balancers, a cloud firewall that's partially VPC like, object storage and block storage. Curious what's next. Lambdas maybe?
Managed databases? Is this a private beta?
DigitalOcean launches its container service
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#102DigitalOcean has always been behind the curve of these things. All of the other big cloud platforms have had this for at least a few months. I haven't actually seen anything 'new' come out of DigitalOcean in years.
Their homepage even says "The simplest cloud platform for developers & teams". Their goal is simplicity, not bleeding edge.
and that's just one of the many reasons they're so awesome.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, kubernetes
yeah, but your configs aren't fully portable between cloud providers when you look at things like LBs, storage, etc..
Yes and No. For example, "type: LoadBalancer" works fine on almost every cloud, but various annotations need to be added for SSL termination on an AWS ALB, for example. The annotations don't collide tho, so you can have a load balancer with both AWS and Google Cloud annotations, and it will work fine on either cloud.
Volume classes are probably the best example of being cloud-specific, but this problem is solved by having a different volume class for each cloud provider, named the same, such that the deployment can always grab a disk regardless of which cloud its living in.
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#104Digitalocean also should produce and sell chairs, sofas, yoghurt, car tires etc...
digitalocean picked a niche and are doing it really well. that doesn't mean they have to expand into other areas.
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#105DO's kubernetes release is an an example of why I am a big fan. As a sole developer, I can't afford high technical debt, but DO packages tech in a way I can manage. I hope they keep on and wish other services (here's looking at you AWS) would package their services as well.
I am a mechanical engineer who dabbles in web development from time to time. I am forever indebted to DigitalOcean for creating a super easy platform for someone who has no clue about VPS starting out. I know how to operate a linux machine but not the slightest idea about how to host a website myself until I came across DigitalOcean and their LAMP/LEMP tutorials.
Once I was comfortable with DigitalOcean, I tried launching a VPS on AWS and holycrap it was so insanely complicated. Within 10 mins of creating an AWS account, I was out. I understand that there is nothing wrong with AWS - it is not for me, but DigitalOcean has fullfilled my needs in the most perfect way with a huge knowledge base and detailed tutorials.
DigitalOcean is absolutely incredible.
Re: DigitalOcean launches its container service
#106DigitalOcean has always been behind the curve of these things. All of the other big cloud platforms have had this for at least a few months. I haven't actually seen anything 'new' come out of DigitalOcean in years.
Were they ever 'new' in anything? I use them for small personal projects (they've gotten a lot more stable recently). I never thought of them as an innovative cloud provider but just one that was cheap and easy.
There was a window where they were a nice option for small SSD backed instances when EC2 was still doing low performance spinning disks for their bottom tier.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, kubernetes
yeah, but your configs aren't fully portable between cloud providers when you look at things like LBs, storage, etc..
They are. Kubernetes has abstractions at exactly the right layers (e.g. Service to create a load balancer) so that you can exchange configs between cloud providers.
There can of course be some difference in the capabilities that each cloud provider supports (e.g. not all load balancer implementations may support UDP) but the abstraction is definitely there.
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#108Been a user of DOs beta kubernetes service and it works well. Though I would say the title of the linked article is a bit misleading. It is a Kubernetes as a service, like EKS, GKE and AKS. But not vanilla container service a la ECS, Fargate, the former Docker Cloud, etc.
Maybe this is a dumb question, but couldn't/shouldn't a KaaS (and other orchestration systems) just be a layer on top of "vanilla" CaaS?
Kubernetes has worked to not be coupled to Docker (http://cri-o.io / https://www.opencontainers.org/), so in a sense, it already is built on top of a "vanilla" container service.
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#109DO's kubernetes release is an an example of why I am a big fan. As a sole developer, I can't afford high technical debt, but DO packages tech in a way I can manage. I hope they keep on and wish other services (here's looking at you AWS) would package their services as well.
Combine it with Terraform and you're winning the Internet.
I ran into some limitations with Terraform and at the time it didn't support Vultr, so I ended up writing my own provisioner. It goes a bit further with setting up DNS records as well and I rolled in some of my own Docker deploy stuff into it; although in retrospect I should have made that a different project.