Firefox 64 Released • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by pseudoanonymity » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:30 PM UTC

> Symantec CA Distrust: Due to a history of malpractice, Firefox 64 will not trust TLS certificates issued by Symantec (including under their GeoTrust, RapidSSL, and Thawte brands). Microsoft, Google, and Apple are implementing similar measures for their respective browsers.

> Multiple tab selection: We’re excited to introduce multiple tab selection, which makes it easier to manage windows with many open tabs. Simply hold Control (Windows, Linux) or Command (macOS) and click on tabs to select them. Once selected, click and drag to move the tabs as a group — either within a given window, or out into a new window.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by shmerl » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:31 PM UTC

I've just updated to new beta (Firefox 65.0b3) with WebRender enabled and it started showing such error in about:support:

    [GFX1-]: shader-cache: Shader disk cache is not supported

I'm using AMD GPU and as far as I know, Mesa supports shader cache for radeonsi and radv.

Does anyone know why that error is showing up?

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by samirm » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:31 PM UTC

O1111OOO wrote: post #50

RSS is dead... I have a local html page devoted to news. An entry for a specific site will see at least two urls: The main site's URL and a link to it's RSS feed. Linking to the feed directly was a great way to bypass all the modern garbage on the home page to see a simple list of articles (not unlike HN's home page). It's borked now... None of my RSS links render. Chromium was very bad at this but at least it render…

You can still do that with an extension.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by nindalf » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:32 PM UTC

sioux77 wrote: post #55

rerx wrote: post #2

Does it come with Mac performance improvements?

If this release makes it actually usable on MacOS I would be so happy. Everyone says to use FireFox here, but they don't realize that it runs horribly on machines that a lot of people use to develop on. Reading the release notes: Improved performance for Mac and Linux users, by enabling link time optimization (Clang LTO). (Clang LTO was enabled for Windows users in Firefox 63.) Doesn't seem like this fixes the high C…

To be clear, this doesn't affect all macOS users. My battery reliably lasts a whole day with Firefox running throughout. That said, the subset of users who are affected, like you, suffer a lot - low prevalence, high impact.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by samirm » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:33 PM UTC

shmerl wrote: post #72

I've just updated to new beta (Firefox 65.0b3) with WebRender enabled and it started showing such error in about:support: [GFX1-]: shader-cache: Shader disk cache is not supported I'm using AMD GPU and as far as I know, Mesa supports shader cache for radeonsi and radv. Does anyone know why that error is showing up?

because you're on a beta build?

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by mirsadm » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

rerx wrote: post #2

Does it come with Mac performance improvements?

Not for me. CPU usage and perforamnce in general is signifanctly worse than Chrome or Safari.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by Paul-ish » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

fao_ wrote: post #33

jjordan wrote: post #15

Is this the version that kills Live Bookmarks? Some of us FF old-timers are hopelessly reliant on these things, and it's, as far as I have found, the fastest way to quickly scan lists of headlines from all your favorite sites at once. Seriously, one click and you can quickly mouse over the sites on your bookmarks toolbar to consume hundreds of headlines. I really, REALLY hate that they're killing this feature, but th…

> but this addon promises to restore it Mozilla did the same with tab groups, then the addon was abandoned. The replacement that is compatible with the new form of extension isn't able to unload the tabs, just hide them, which undoes most of the performance benefits. [abraham simpson voice] It'll happen to you too! [/abraham simpson voice] /jk

The addon was abandoned by its author because Mozilla was making major changes to the addon API at the time. Extensions used to have carte blanche to change the browser, which was a security risk, not to mention it made threading/parallelizing the browser hard. The new extension API removed a lot of that freedom. After the API change, it wasn't possible (and might still not be) to develop a useful tab groups addon with the new API, so the author ceased development.

I can't imagine Mozilla crippling the addon API to the point where it can't grab data off an RSS feed and display it.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by bm98 » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #37

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #22

> The CSS Scrollbars Level 1 spec standardizes features for setting scrollbar width and color I would like these features to be standardised to hands-off-my-fricking-scrollbars. I’m fed up with impossible-to-grab 1px-wide scrollbars because “everyone has trackpads”. No, they don’t.

> because “everyone has trackpads”. No, they don’t. Don't most mice have scrolling as well? It's not about trackpads.

Most new mice, yes. I use an original Logitech MouseMan 3-button mouse with no scroll-wheel. I realize I'm an outlier, but no mouse has ever come close in terms of comfort for me - so I continue to use it, and life has been just fine until the advent of the Overlay Scroll Bar.

I realize the benefits of the Overlay Scroll Bar to the majority of users who have scroll-wheels. But it sure would be nice if there was an easy way to revert back to the Normal Scroll Bar ("Classic" scroll bar?). You know, the wide bar that scrolls down exactly one page-length if you click outside of the bar? I've spent plenty of time Googling and in "about:config" and exporting environment variables like GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 to no avail.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by usrusr » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #51

fao_ wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but this addon promises to restore it Mozilla did the same with tab groups, then the addon was abandoned. The replacement that is compatible with the new form of extension isn't able to unload the tabs, just hide them, which undoes most of the performance benefits. [abraham simpson voice] It'll happen to you too! [/abraham simpson voice] /jk

> Mozilla did the same with tab groups, then the addon was abandoned. Wouldn't that indicate that the extension was not that widely used, and as such Mozilla were correct in removing it from the central codebase?

“Not that widely used" is an incredibly elastic term. When you axe twenty "5% features" your worst case is offending 100% of your users.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by gnicholas » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:35 PM UTC

rerx wrote: post #2

Does it come with Mac performance improvements?

I have used Firefox since the early 2000s, and it has been frustrating to see performance get worse even as my hardware gets better. I realize that this is mainly the fault of bloated websites, but I can also see that Chrome and Safari are faster than Firefox.

I recently switched to Brave Developer Edition [1], which now supports Chrome extensions (which I need for work/pleasure). It runs circles around Firefox and Chrome, and maintains my privacy better.

Previously it was a tradeoff of getting speed (Chrome) or maintaining privacy (Firefox). For me, Brave does better on both counts, and now that it supports extensions I'm completely sold.

1: https://brave.com/download-dev/