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Tableau Software Threatened? Rival Growing at 70% Just Raised $103M

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Re: Tableau Software Threatened? Rival Growing at 70% Just Raised $103M

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Post by jjtheblunt »

rchaud wrote: post #42
madamelic wrote: post #20

Forbes seems to be 95% ads now. Not just the content. I went on the page and a huge 3/4 page banner scrolled my view, then another popped into the side, then Forbes had a pop over asking for my email. Yikes!

Places like Forbes, Inc and Huffpost appear to exist solely for content writers to use their logo on their portfolio websites under the heading "Published In: ".

Well they're also "owned" by lobbyist-style groups. HuffPost is clearly (ludicrously) pro Democrat, Forbes anti-Apple, and so on. It's close to amusing.

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Post by cosmie »

feydaykyn wrote: post #54
cosmie wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2) either a vm running windows server or create a db on azure to update manually because powerbi doesn't allow aws databases I believe this is a misunderstanding. You can totally connect to AWS databases with PowerBI, assuming your AWS database is routable. You can't set up the connection through the web interface, but you can use PowerBI Desktop to set up virtually any database that has an ODBC driver as a source[…

Yes exactly, so the only way to have a non public database is to run a Windows vm on AWS, I would rather avoid that, especially because we need one vm per customer. Thanks for the detailed write up!

Is there a reason you need one VM per customer, and can't use a single Data Gateway to manage multiple data connections?

On that note, you don't have to use the official data gateway application. It certainly has a lot of ancillary benefits, but isn't critical. You can just as effectively create a bastion linux host and use ssh to remote forward the connection to AWS database[1]. I've done that plenty of times in the past, to access databases like Redshift and Dynamo that were within non-public VPCs. Easier to manage and cheaper to run per client, if that's a hard requirement.

You could also use something like QuickSight, if you're purely AWS. But I'd only recommend that if you expect to allocate a large amount of development resources for support. PowerBI is a lot more user friendly for business users to be self-sufficient, and sometimes it's less of a hassle to deal with the up-front complexity of that than to deal with the non-stop application support needs of business users.

[1] https://www.ssh.com/ssh/tunneling/example#sec-Remote-Forward...

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Post by cuchoi »

groj wrote: post #60
georgewfraser wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that their viz is weak. I comfort myself by saying that this is the easy part and they'll surely fix it eventually ...still waiting after two years.

I think the community can have a big impact here, there are so many libraries that make it easy to add custom visuals. Specifically, vega is incredible https://vega.github.io/ and there is a port for Looker https://github.com/groodlooker/vega-lite

Have you used that port?

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Post by cuchoi »

blowski wrote: post #8
ineedasername wrote: post #2

Not really a threat. this article is mostly about Looker, which is a very different product with a significantly higher entry level price tag. Tableau on the other hand is part of the curriculum in many information science programs in colleges, and is significantly embedded in the enterprise sector. it will take significant stagnation on Tableua's part or a black swan type of event to dislodge them any time soon.

Bit of anecdata: I used Looker in a previous gig, where we used it mostly a development tool for constructing and optmising difficult queries. The business continued to use Tableau for BI.

How did you use Looker to optimize queries?

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Post by pacala »

manigandham wrote: post #24

Tableau is the best at getting non-technical users to be instantly productive, and is completely unmatched in pure analytical abilities and visualizations. They aren't standing still here either. However Tableau has absolutely screwed up their evolution into a cloud-based service. The current single-user desktop software with client/server design is painful and archaic, and the Tableau cloud is just a hosted server r…

Technically speaking, what's a good way to connect to data sources for cloud apps? I'd be nervous to let cloud apps [or hackers thereof] to slurp arbitrary bits of data through JDBC. Quite a bit more comfortable having the connection happening from on-prem workstations.

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Post by sevensor »

thenaturalist wrote: post #21
sevensor wrote: post #5

I'm not sure the analysis front-end is really where the money is at. There are lots of industries that have trouble getting their data to a place where it can be analyzed at all. I know some very successful companies here in flyover country that picked a sector where this is a problem and made a business of fixing it.

Would you mind sharing some examples? I'm in the Business Intelligence space and always interested in what is available for integration & ETL.

Ag is huge, as you might expect from flyover country. Pipelines. Marketing data.
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