Super Micro says review found no malicious chips in motherboards

Post by lioeters » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 5:36 PM UTC

indigochill wrote: post #179

pjc50 wrote: post #155

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So, when looking at this, we have to remember that reporters aren't analysts ; they're not expected to have subject-specific background and make personal judgement calls as to what the underlying truth is. If you want that you can certainly get it - for a much higher price than a newspaper. That's what firms like Gartner are for. Reporters to a very large extent report what sources say . Their judgement comes in cons…

c) report it as what it is: unsubstantiated hearsay. A story can be interesting and relevant but impossible to prove, and you can still report it honestly by simply making it clear what came from an anonymous source and what is verifiable fact. But it's very easy (and appears to have happened all over the place in this particular article) to cite what someone tells you as fact without making it clear you're just repo…

Post by godelski » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 5:38 PM UTC

narrator wrote: post #168

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Nothing, just like nothing will happen to the outlets who are currently pushing this "Huwai is spying on everybody" narrative with not an ounce of evidence for it except for unfounded and unsourced claims by FiveEyes intelligence services [0]. Afaik that whole Bloomberg/Super Micro thing was similarly set up, referring to "anonymous intelligence/industry services", not even naming the company that supposedly did the…

Seems like anonymous sources inside the intelligence agencies is how a lot of the news gets generated these days. Anonymous figures don't have to worry about their reputation or credibility and can just leak occasionally true information to keep getting published.

Post by bunnycorn » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 5:46 PM UTC

paraditedc wrote: post #182

Bloomberg got the ads revenue, and people who read Bloomberg won't stop doing that just because of this. The only thing changed is the lower cosine distance between China and hacking in the English corpus, as well as people's minds.

Post by onetimemanytime » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 5:47 PM UTC

neya wrote: post #28

Let's say Super Micro is right and there were no malicious hardware at all for sure. What are the consequences for Bloomberg for this incompetence? I mean, there needs to be something.. Just because you're a news organization, you can't simply escape with "Oh, my bad". This had real implications on stock prices of so many companies and wiped off shareholder value on many of them, including Super Micro. If Bloomberg's…

Post by dragontamer » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 5:56 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #172

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This is a case of c) Reporters were completely reckless. They bought a small 0402 decoupling capacitor, put it on pencil tip, and then claimed that it was a chip that could hack your device. Any EE worth their salt knows exactly what 0402 decoupling capacitors do, and that there's no way you can hack from that angle. It has to do where that particular chip is placed: usually on power-lines... not really signal-traces…

A lot of people got hung up on the photos, but did the text actually state what they were or were they just "for illustrative purposes" like stock photos?