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The Firefox Dilemma

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Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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I wouldn't rush into it, but with webassembly I can't help but think that a browser rendered mobile OS is a concept worth reviving at some point. And google is unlikely to pursue that since they have Android.

A new Firefox OS? I'd love to see this happen.

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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1. I like firefox's omnibar/awesomebar more than chrome's. It seems to read my mind better [1]. It also have some features [2] I think most people are unaware of. 2. Firefox have bookmark tags. 3. Firefox scroll the tabs instead of compressing the width until they're unusable. (It's also possible to set the minimum tab-width) 4. It's much simpler to get ctrl-tab MRU behavior [3] in Firefox last time I checked. 5. Fir…

6) Even better: Built-in Tracking Protection can likely serve the same use case and gives you better performance, because jumping into JavaScript code and back for every request is costly (it's not a high cost, depending on hardware though).

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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I’ve been using Firefox since about 0.93, with about a year in the middle when I used Chrome as my primary browser, because it ran from a USB disk much better than Firefox did at the time, and that was what I needed at the time. (I am glad that Chrome came along, because by showing how bad Firefox was in some areas it spurred Mozilla on to improve it, so that it’s no longer bad like that.) I look at the sessions of p…

My understanding was that TreeStyleTabs (which was FF's killer feature the last time I used it) was incompatible with their new plugin APIs? Or did I misread that?

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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post #132

1. I like firefox's omnibar/awesomebar more than chrome's. It seems to read my mind better [1]. It also have some features [2] I think most people are unaware of. 2. Firefox have bookmark tags. 3. Firefox scroll the tabs instead of compressing the width until they're unusable. (It's also possible to set the minimum tab-width) 4. It's much simpler to get ctrl-tab MRU behavior [3] in Firefox last time I checked. 5. Fir…

About the omnibar: does anyone know what its limitations are? It seems to lose sites I only use somewhat infrequently. It's frustrating when I know I've been there plenty of times, but nothing pops up.

Might be because the browser history is limited by default: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1039372

Details on the ranking algorithm: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/Places...

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

#145

The best thing about Firefox is that the browser is separate from your Google account so you don't have to worry about your bookmarks/extensions getting synced behind your back by Google and messing everything up. Google requiring browser/Google account to be the same is a nuisance that you don't have to worry about with Firefox.

What's also amazing, is that if you sign up for a Firefox Account you get privacy preserving sync: The data is encrypted & decrypted on your devices. Mozilla doesn't get to see your data.

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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post #9

Firefox would do well to remove Pocket integration and stop placing ads.

a.) Mozilla owns Pocket.

b.) The ads are entirely local and do not track you. They're an attempt to diversify revenue sources away from Google. Chrome doesn't have to do that, since Google tracks you.

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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Mozilla lacks the financial strength to shove their merchandise down people's throats. Microsoft used OS market share, Opera used small device market share and Google used web search market share to promote their offerings. Mozilla never had a similar advantage, only technical superiority for a while, which others caught up in a few years and average users didn't care about that anyway.

Of all people, the folks here on hacker news, are in the best situation to change that.

Be vocal! Use your influence!

And if you have the means: donate!

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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1. Send tab to device 2. Reader mode 3. Addons on mobile (pretty much just for blocking unwanted requests to make things way faster on slow connection and to protect my privacy) 4. Facebook container (same for Google would be nice) 5. Taking screenshots 6. Always enable zoom on mobile [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/send-tab-firefox-ios-yo... [2] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clu..…

There's one for Google and one for Twitter, too. Both are not maintained by Mozilla, but by third-party devs, but the code changes are straight-forward (replace domains, make Google container tabs red by default instead of blue, use different icon). I use them for several months, and I'm pretty happy about them.

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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post #41

I think there's another factor at play that isn't often mentioned: Google uses the dominant position of its services, as well as the strength of their brands, to promote Chrome as the better browser, in not-so-subtle ways. One is often repeatedly prompted to install Chrome when visiting Google on other browsers[1][2]. Most normal users would just give up and install just to get rid of the pop up. Microsoft has been d…

Also Firefox for Android gets a shit version of Google search. But if you spoof your user agent it works perfectly. That definitely is using their dominance in search to make people.use their web browser.

That's been fixed recently but there is another issue - Google search results from the home screen always open in a Chrome view, even if your default browser is Firefox. You end up with an awkward mix of Chrome and Firefox.

Re: The Firefox Dilemma

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Crazy idea. what would happen if firefox would also become chromium based? You would now have a browser as fast as chrome but with better privacy features that chrome will never compete against. If chromium is open source other companies could share the control over code right? I suspect this is a terrible idea but still trying to find out why.

I know it's a tempting thought. Mozilla has certainly evaluated (and discarded) this possibility – as you mention, it's not a good idea.

I posted a few reasons for this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18655028

Also

> If chromium is open source other companies could share the control over code right?

The sole governing body for Chromium is Google. Other companies get exactly as much control as Google decides.

That's the opposite of, say, the Linux Kernel or Rust. It is my understanding that Firefox is also heading in the same direction as these, i.e. towards shared control by all stakeholders.

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