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Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by johneth »

sbhn wrote: post #49
johneth wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just pointed out how the UK does not have cards up it’s sleeve. But as you seem to know something I don’t, please enlighten me - any examples of the UK government actually censoring games?

Games are media. Even the app store has censorship requirements that you must follow. You can lobby to your government to introduce more stringent cencorship laws on Chinese exports to your country if you want, because, well, its just not fair that chinese has inport laws, just like many other countries.

Thank you for not answering my question.

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by GlennS »

zabana wrote: post #10

[Off-topic] - What's with all the "China is evil" articles lately ? Are there any websites (non-chinese) where I can find news about positive advancements in the country ? This whole anti-China hype train got me intrigued.

In my opinion, the "China is evil" articles were triggered by the abolition of term limits for the party chairman.

It's changed the mood from "they are acting reasonably effetively in their national interest" to "this guy could do anything".

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by sbhn »

johneth wrote: post #51
sbhn wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Games are media. Even the app store has censorship requirements that you must follow. You can lobby to your government to introduce more stringent cencorship laws on Chinese exports to your country if you want, because, well, its just not fair that chinese has inport laws, just like many other countries.

Thank you for not answering my question.

my first comment illuded to the eagerness of the hacker news community to engage in china bashing. I also pointed out that censorship is considered during the design process. Here is a list of games we are allowed to know about before PEGI was enforced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games

Games you are not allowed to know about would be sympathic to the cause of afghans, iranians, iraqis, syrians and many more things that sell newspapers and political elections.

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by dang »

factsaresacred wrote: post #25
zabana wrote: post #10

[Off-topic] - What's with all the "China is evil" articles lately ? Are there any websites (non-chinese) where I can find news about positive advancements in the country ? This whole anti-China hype train got me intrigued.

[flagged]

Please keep nationalistic flamewar off HN. It's what this site is not for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by dang »

wisdomoftheages wrote: post #14
zabana wrote: post #10

[Off-topic] - What's with all the "China is evil" articles lately ? Are there any websites (non-chinese) where I can find news about positive advancements in the country ? This whole anti-China hype train got me intrigued.

Well, in the Xi era China has a) become more of an overtly fascist dictatorship and b) harder for Westerners to make money in, so because of b) there's more incentive to focus on a) Still lots of great stuff happening there, so long as you're not an ethnic minority, religious, LGBT, disabled, an addict, mentally ill, interested in social change, or too poor to afford your own private oxygen and food supply

Please keep nationalistic flamewar off HN. It's what this site is not for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by votepaunchy »

majani wrote: post #43
point78 wrote: post #12

What is the solution to China either constantly banning our products and then cloning them or counterfeiting what's not banned? We're losing billions.

Their country, their rules. The US has no God given right to world domination with their products.

Just as long as we're on the same page here when the US debt spirals out of control forcing a default on China-owned T-bonds.

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by johneth »

sbhn wrote: post #53
johneth wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for not answering my question.

my first comment illuded to the eagerness of the hacker news community to engage in china bashing. I also pointed out that censorship is considered during the design process. Here is a list of games we are allowed to know about before PEGI was enforced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games Games you are not allowed to know about would be sympathic to the cause of afghans, iranians, iraqis, syria…

Pointing out hypocrisy in the Chinese government's policies (competition, human rights, etc.) is not 'bashing'. Just as pointing out those things in other governments is not X bashing.

The reason it seems to occur more often with China is because China is the rising power, and probably the power of the 21st century - its actions will be scrutinised because its actions have major consequences for the rest of the world.

I will happily 'bash' my (UK) government over a whole range of things. Censorship in creative industries is not one of them. China has a long history of creative suppression and censorship.

I would assume that games sympathetic to the causes of Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, and others are not 'banned' or creatively stifled, just that there is no commercial interest or reward in such games. This is not censorship by a government. There's nothing stopping anybody making games on such subjects.

That's the difference between China (and other similar governments) and, for lack of a better category, western governments. China's government will intervene in creative processes, western governments will not.

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by RaleyField »

majani wrote: post #46
realusername wrote: post #2

It's probably all bullshit reasons as usual with the CCCP to let their local market to compete with local stuff. > Fortnite by Epic Games/Tencent (Blood and gore, vulgar content.) This has to be the most ridiculous reason, Fortnite banned for blood and gore? It's just a cartoon game.

Letting the local market compete is "bullshit" now? I'm guessing China should be "fair" and let US gaming companies take billions out of their economy without hiring a single Chinese person or paying a cent in Chinese taxes?

> Letting the local market compete is "bullshit" now?

It was bullshit before too. This is nothing but another form of candlemaker's petition.[1] Why is welfare of corporations more important than free choice of consumers? Why not let consumers voluntarily decide where they want to take their business?

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/candle-makers-pe...

Re: Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9

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Post by fsloth »

kkarakk wrote: post #15
point78 wrote: post #12

What is the solution to China either constantly banning our products and then cloning them or counterfeiting what's not banned? We're losing billions.

regime change by cutting off their benefits and forcing unrest seems to be the only way. waaaay too many countries are having their industries undercut by cheap chinese imports that basically rip off products. the only good thing trump has done is the china tariffs

"regime change by cutting off their benefits and forcing unrest seems to be the only way"

You do realize the number of countries US has destabilized over the years is not an insignificant one?

And that the results have seldom been satisfactory to anyone but the particular companies that benefitted from the escapade?

What you are saying amounts to that the right of american companies to make a profit is more important than the political sovereignty, happiness and wellness of peoples living in countries which threat these profits.

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